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Linkzmax said:

I have no idea what you could be thinking at this point. You softclaimed to know for a fact Noctis is scum. Noctis thinks Mr.P is scum and claims that he is the opposite of what you think.

What scenario could you possibly be thinking of in which Noctis is town and knows Mr.P is scum?

If my last question to Noctis wasn't obvious, I think he's softclaiming a role that he should have flat out claimed yesterDay.

If I have claimed day 1 then I just gave the scum an info. that there is a Cop. Assuming that they don't have a Godfather. I am waiting for the cop to claimed so I can testify for him and assure you guys that there is a cop. 
You can lynch me now to avoid confusion on my role. 

And to give out my Character I am Shinjiro Aragaki. Basing on my flavor I am thinking Strega are the mafia here. 



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Lynching you now would make no sense. Having one more town is still bettering our odds.

What do you mean testify for the cop?



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BladeSymphony said:
Lynching you now would make no sense. Having one more town is still bettering our odds.

What do you mean testify for the cop?

It means that I will beleived the cop because I am a Town-miler. Having my role confirms a cop. Sorry english is not my native language. 



Stefl1504 said:
I saw a lot of blame being put on me and ToS trying to divert attention from a spurge lynch, who ended up flipping town overnight - there is another thing I am missing analysed by people (maybe it did get though and I am misremembering that at this second).

Do you mean why did nobody ask why spurge was the kill?

I'm more concerned with how little is being said in general. I guess we have a lot celebrating Boxing Day.



BladeSymphony said:
@linkz Counterclaiming in what way? His role seems to have far more to it than mine. I don't doubt the intentions of the host to include roles with similar actions based on themes. I'm not saying Stefl is innocent, but it is still in the realm of possibility.

The idea that Noctis is a miller is a more plausible possibility. A role that is a burden to town. That checks with every one of the miller's descriptions on epicmafia. I'm very weary of lynching Noctis at this point. My information is all we have, however.

At this point I'm more comfortable lynching Trucks due to yesterDay's actions -- successfully diverted attention away from himself and removed every lynch vote -- successfully got a town member lynched and another killed. If I were to vote, that's who I'd vote for.

It's stronger in some ways and weaker than others, but it's fairly similar to cop at the end of the day. Both existing is certainly plausible, but if I had either role I would certainly be wary of someone claiming the other. And if I were mafia fakeclaiming, I wouldn't want town to test the idea of both as it would reduce my survivability quite quickly.

I'm troubled by how easy you seem to trust Noctis as well. You hint heavily that you're the cop, so he reacts and hints heavily that he's a miller, and now everything is fine. I thought Noctis was town before, but this feels too much like a setup.



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NoCtiS_NoX said:
Linkzmax said:

I have no idea what you could be thinking at this point. You softclaimed to know for a fact Noctis is scum. Noctis thinks Mr.P is scum and claims that he is the opposite of what you think.

What scenario could you possibly be thinking of in which Noctis is town and knows Mr.P is scum?

If my last question to Noctis wasn't obvious, I think he's softclaiming a role that he should have flat out claimed yesterDay.

If I have claimed day 1 then I just gave the scum an info. that there is a Cop. Assuming that they don't have a Godfather. I am waiting for the cop to claimed so I can testify for him and assure you guys that there is a cop. 
You can lynch me now to avoid confusion on my role. 

And to give out my Character I am Shinjiro Aragaki. Basing on my flavor I am thinking Strega are the mafia here. 

Mafia usually assume there is a cop already, even if they don't have a Godfather. Claiming Day one means a cop won't waste a scan on you. Now , since that may have actually happened we are in the exact same boat of choosing to believe your role or not, as if you had claimed yesterDay. Not sure where the idea of a miller claiming after a cop claim to give them more credibility comes from, but claiming beforehand would do the same.



To be fair, I doubt that Mafia with no Godfather usually assume the existence of a cop when there is already a claimed psychic.



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Linkzmax said:
Stefl1504 said:
I saw a lot of blame being put on me and ToS trying to divert attention from a spurge lynch, who ended up flipping town overnight - there is another thing I am missing analysed by people (maybe it did get though and I am misremembering that at this second).

Do you mean why did nobody ask why spurge was the kill?

I'm more concerned with how little is being said in general. I guess we have a lot celebrating Boxing Day.

Well, yeah, that plays into that whole thing too, but I remember getting scrutinised over me trying to divert the lynch...



My Spidey senses are telling me that it's been over 200 posts and 2 days since TruckOSaurus posted.  He did say he was "driving to his husband's family's" but it's still getting to have been a while. 



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axumblade said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:

It means that I will beleived the cop because I am a Town-miler. Having my role confirms a cop. Sorry english is not my native language. 

This seems a bit too convenient of a role claim. Then again, there have been a lot of convenient role claims.

As I have mentioned lynch me then. I will flip town. If you want I can post my whole PM so I will be modkilled?