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As a quick note, you are still acting like there is nothing wrong with your bolding of my one statement (the part you found important). I'll give you an example of what you did.
On every single alcoholic beverage sold in the US, they must have a statement that says something along the lines of : Warning, according to the surgeon general, women should not drink alcoholic beverages while pregnant.
It is no different than me saying I don't find the "while pregnant" in the above statement to be important, but it is absolutely crucial that it is included, in the same manner, mind you, to be properly understood.
By bolding only the one part of my comment, you are bringing every single persons attention to just that. At that point, it is absolutely irrelevant that you included the other items, you have already taken advantage of human nature in focusing on only the bold part.
Another instance, you keep saying the Why? Post was referenced to Linkz, but it was ultimately asking if I, Baalzamon, answered it. It is a completely irrelevant question, because it wasn't even meant to be answered. So why did you feel the need to ask if you read the whole context and knew that?
So I repeat yet again, why are you intentionally manipulating my posts and trying to make me sound bad based off of them, when fully reading through them clearly shows the exact opposite.
Hint: Saying you were highlighting what you found to be important is the wrong answer.



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zero129 said:
TruckOSaurus said:

You put me out of my misery during that game why would I be mad at you?

Why dont you tell me?.

What is it that makes you think im scum. If your going to vote for me show me your proof..

I see you already admitted to it on the first page. See what I did there? I can keep going through and do it to most of your posts like you did to me if you really want.



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zero129 said:
Stefl1504 said:

Policy lynches are fine if that person will fucking grab all the scumtension of the game and will prevent scumhunting.

And what about when its other people thats putting the attention on that person with silly reasoning?.

Should that person not defend themselfs?. Should that person do like Mr.P and just stay silent and allow themselfs to be lynched?.

Mr.P would of been fine in the last game if we didnt keep bringing attention to him.

Right here, you mention how if attention is getting put on somebody, that it would make sense for them to defend themselves. Regardless of whether you are quoting other people as well, you have clearly put significantly more attention on me with your quotes than anybody else has on me this game (which, as I indicated before, is because I haven't really said all that much).

So I gotta ask you, if you are going to make my posts look all scummy ( and yes, that is exactly what you did )...why is it not ok for me to defend myself, when you state earlier this game this is exactly what I should do?

And I'm going to be really cranky about the whole thing, mind you, because there is absolutely no reason why I should have to clarify the posts I have made. It is a waste of my time, but I'm not going to just leave your items unanswered.



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jeeze 200 posts in 1 day. ffs.
Ok, just really quickly, things that I have to answer:
1: linkz, bout the stefl acting differently. I already answered this post, but to summarize again, stefl is playing intentionally differently. You said he is playing the same, but no, last game he was very methodical and was quick to change topics including talking about setup and meta. This game he comes out, basically throws himself on a cross in some weird way to not get targetted despite drawing a ton of attention. He is acting way more reckless, but it doesn't come off as genuine to me. It comes off like he thinks he's gunna be read as scum again, and intentionally putting himself at the spotlight, much like I did last game.

2: The hanged man arcana. I am tatsuya suou. For some reason I didn't even see the first one, I only saw the secondary one, and thought it was the primary. That's my mistake from just pure bias. Basically, I looked up my character, thought he looked like a wanker, saw hanged man, and was like, of course... I've only played p4golden and the only character I really disliked was the hanged man, the brother of the first victim. So, I apologize but that was my mistake just because I was quick to judge my character. Again, I think he looks stupid. But still, I don't think it matters. My role isn't related to my character or my arcana.



Now, regarding stefl and the night actions:
So we've finally figured out that MrP targetted stefl and intercepted a message, and we also found out that stefl was targetted for a vote enabler.
Why in the world is MrP and a vote enabler targetting stefl? The only good idea that would come of this is that if a watcher also targetted him, we would know who was there, but guys seriously, why would you target stefl if he said he was a cop who can't investigate if someone targetted him???
Furthermore, why is stefl automatically assuming that the people who targetted him were town? If I had stefl's role, I'd automatically assume that anyone who targetted me was scum.



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I'm hanging with my gf for christmas but I'll be back in a little bit. I also have another theory, but I'm gunna keep quiet about it until I see more info.



I currently am reading mrp and stefl as scum



theprof00 said:
Now, regarding stefl and the night actions:
So we've finally figured out that MrP targetted stefl and intercepted a message, and we also found out that stefl was targetted for a vote enabler.
Why in the world is MrP and a vote enabler targetting stefl? The only good idea that would come of this is that if a watcher also targetted him, we would know who was there, but guys seriously, why would you target stefl if he said he was a cop who can't investigate if someone targetted him???
Furthermore, why is stefl automatically assuming that the people who targetted him were town? If I had stefl's role, I'd automatically assume that anyone who targetted me was scum.

No, I didn't assume all the people targeting me are town, I assumed that the double vote enabler is town. Having that as scum is highly unlikely and maybe even broken. I didn't know if Mr.P targetted me or not, I guessed that more than one person has visited me.

I have no clue why Mr.P would target me, but I don't think him targetting me was necessary.

On the other hand if you assume that a watcher is out there and him targetting me with something confirmable is smart. It was not smart to reveal the double voter part really.

Like assume this:

Watcher watches DV-Enabler and Mr.P visiting me and another person, now we have two people that are confirmable and a third one that would have to lie about his role. Assuming that I am a hot-spot of night actions is actually something that makes me an attractive watcher target.



Stefl1504 said:
Final-Fan said:

If neither Mr.P nor Stefl get lynched today, there's a two for one sale on investigations in Stefl-town. 

What do you mean by that?

Have you read all the posts up to that one? 



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zero129 said:
Final-Fan said:

See the post immediately above this one (as of this writing; previous one by me anyway).
Same question to you.  It's the short paragraph in the middle. 

To be honest i dont really think so. Thats why i said maybe. Dont get me wrong im not about to leave out any option and it is possible, but i dont see it as very likely for the reasons you stated.

Then why did you assume, when I asked my original question "How likely do you think it is that scum would have an ability that lets them intercept and read messages given by the moderator to other players?", that I thought it WAS likely? 



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