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Baalzamon said:
zero129 said:

Was this ever answered i cant find it?

Vote: Zero

 

That is staying put until you can give me a logical reason on why you have such a problem with me.

The ironic part about all the stuff you are quoting is for anybody actually reading all of my posts, it is absolutely nothing.

If this one doesn't make sense to you, I can help out on that too. Literally the next post said, and don't ask why, I am running a test to see if I can get a read on people (inferring that if I was to reveal the test it makes it irrelevant going forward).

Linkz then immediately responded with a joke post saying "Why? :P"

His post was a joke. A joke that didn't need a response.



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And no chill pills are necessary, I just don't care to deal with intentional manipulation of very clear words. Quit interrogating me unecessarily and I'll quit snapping back at you.



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zero129 said:
Baalzamon said:

Vote: Zero

 

That is staying put until you can give me a logical reason on why you have such a problem with me.

The ironic part about all the stuff you are quoting is for anybody actually reading all of my posts, it is absolutely nothing.

Wow. That is such a scummy move. Good job .

Anybody reading your posts can see you placed your votes with no real reason including this one.

OMG i question you and you vote me lol.

To make it worse you vote me since i asked linkz was his question he asked you answered as to why you think trucks is town....

So did you answere it?

Also i have no problem with you. When i question people doesnt mean i have a problem with them.

In fact you can see i have questioned many people on this subject who didnt reply nearly as scummy as you just did...

This isn't about just your questioning. It is about your clearly not reading the thread and then quoting items, only to highlight only portions that when excluded from the entire subject sound worse, etc.

The question from Linkz is the perfect instance. There were a total of about 50 words in the 3 posts that myself and Linkz made (and I honestly think they were consecutive posts), and anybody who read the whole short interaction would know Linkz question was never intended to be answered.

I have -0- issue with you questioning people. It is a necessary part of the game. I have no time, however, for words I have stated to be completely manipulated in what must be an obvious attempt. You continue saying I had no reason for my votes, but I VERY clearly indicated what both my Spurge and Miz votes were for yesterday. You say I went against my own words when I voted for Miz, but VERY clearly stated my exact thought process and how my vote wasn't at all a direct contradiction of what I was saying. You ask why I'm not answering joke questions (that were very clearly joke questions in their context).

 

As I'm sure everybody is aware, I really haven't posted too terribly much this game. As such, I've tried making sure my posts are well thought out and get a point across.

 

Yet, you are managing to go through and intentionally (yes, at this point it absolutely must be intentional) making it sound bad. And quite frankly, for anybody who only reads your quotes and doesn't go back and actually read the whole context, it will sound hella scummy.

 

You've shown you are capable of including multiple quotes in your posts easily enough, so why do you continue excluding all relevant posts when you quote me? As indicated before, until you can give me a valid reason, the vote remains.



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Linkzmax said:
Baalzamon said:

Don't ask why. Running an experiment here, interested if I can get town reads from more people for the same thing.

Why? :P

Just wanted to reference this out to you guys. I'm assuming Zero deleted the inner quote on purpose, because it very clearly shows how it isn't meant to be answered.



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zero129 said:
Linkzmax said:

I'm not faulting you for disliking the vote so much. I just don't share you opinion on it.

I'm not sure if you mean fluffy as in it's fake or you're glad that he further explained his vote? If you'd like, I think others also had an opinion on the explanation.

Do you mean did miz respond to that post?

I understand your point, but one thing about your voting pattern. If you're assuming Stefl is town, why did Trucks try to save himself by hopping behind the weak vote on miz instead of the decent train on Stefl that was already established?

I also meant to ask why you seem to have an issue with thinking both newbs could be scum?

Well your entitled to your opinion on it. But im pretty sure that earlier you said it was weak also. Why do you think trucks was pushing such a weak vote in the first place?.

I mean fluffy as in i think its fake, and i think when he talks about "Trying harder" this time and "Helping town win" after his last game (Remember he was mafia and let his team down). Makes me believe his on about helping scum win this time. Its also why his changed his playstyle around to try seem more active but look at his posts. Read them. Has any of them been doing any real scum hunting at all??. They are just full of fluff..

what i mean is trucks is making miz's words look worse then they where with that post, and was ladging on to miz's reason for not wanting to say much.

I believe trucks knew miz was town and knew he had a power role when miz said he wanted to wait for power roles (Like i said trucks is a long time player).

Maybe trucks wasnt sure of stefl's role? maybe stefl "Is" on the same team as him? (Mr.P too since FF could be right about that being a mafia role).

I dont like the idea of both newbs being scum. However it doesnt in no way mean i dont think its very much possible. And could also be likely with how they been acting.

however i wouldnt be willing to push a lynch on blades to be honest, as i think i know what him and nocs are soft claiming.

Yes, second behind spurge's in reasoning but still pretty weak overall. Trucks overall play yesterDay was about promoting pro-town behavior. It fits with hosting a game in which town overall played very poorly. This is just a null-tell though, similar to Stefl coming after Mr.P right away. I lean town because he has not simply given up after a little bit of pressure. He had already given up Day One in the game you copped him. Look how dejected he was. This game he's been upbeat. I'll be surprised if after all these years he's ramped it up as scum, but happy about the challenge it would mean for future games.

I'll look back into his old games, but I don't particularly remember Trucks as a very active scumhunter. Stefl, prof, Heph,(before your time maybe?) and I often led the show. They or FF could also compare his play to what they remember as well.

I wouldn't want to lynch Blade right now either, and if we did want to test out the softclaim it would be Noctis to hang instead.



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Linkzmax said:
BladeSymphony said:

I'm beginning to think your role directly conflicts with mine. I can't be quite sure, but from the way you're phrasing it, that strongly seems like it would be the case. And if that's true...

I'm thinking the scum list would look a lot like this: Scum: Mr. P, Arminillo, Trucks, Stefl

But only if you're telling the truth, if not, then it's back square one, though I feel the mafia might be gunning for my head tonight considering my softclaims. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Unvote Noctis

I have no idea what you could be thinking at this point. You softclaimed to know for a fact Noctis is scum. Noctis thinks Mr.P is scum and claims that he is the opposite of what you think.

What scenario could you possibly be thinking of in which Noctis is town and knows Mr.P is scum?

If my last question to Noctis wasn't obvious, I think he's softclaiming a role that he should have flat out claimed yesterDay.

Noctis is softclaiming that he always comes back as scum. Hence his claim of having a role that is a burden to the town. This makes me think he is town, but that is based on his own words, which may not be trustworthy. That is the scenario I am thinking of.



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BladeSymphony said:
Linkzmax said:

I have no idea what you could be thinking at this point. You softclaimed to know for a fact Noctis is scum. Noctis thinks Mr.P is scum and claims that he is the opposite of what you think.

What scenario could you possibly be thinking of in which Noctis is town and knows Mr.P is scum?

If my last question to Noctis wasn't obvious, I think he's softclaiming a role that he should have flat out claimed yesterDay.

Noctis is softclaiming that he always comes back as scum. Hence his claim of having a role that is a burden to the town. This makes me think he is town, but that is based on his own words, which may not be trustworthy. That is the scenario I am thinking of.

That's what I'm reading as well. What I question is why that alone sways your opinion on Mr.P.(and others)



Final-Fan said:
Arminillo said:

How am i being relentless when i just said i was going to backoff on flavorhunting? I also dont like that term, its invaldative and i think i havent presented an illogical argument based on flavor all game.

Good point on the first part, but what is "invaldative" supposed to mean? 

It's not that your claims about the alignments of Persona characters are wrong, it's that those arguments have no known bearing on this game, except as a loose tie to the style of powers a player might have, if they have powers.  Even then, it's just a guessing game IMO as to what aspects of the character Clyde chose to intrepret into a mafia role, and how.  A guessing game that distracts and detracts from other discussion. 

its a word i just assumed was an actual word, and upon googling is not (lol). I meant to say along the lines of it made me seem like I was wasting my time. I know they have no known bearing, and with the Spurge flip I realize how wrong I initially was. But I dont think my Day 1 actions were any less a waste of time than suspecting others for "playing different".

 

In Day 2, I feel people can act on things that are actually happening in this game, rather than prior games.

 

I also hate that im being suspected just because I dont play like someone who knows this game. I can't hardly defend myself, even though I clearly posted my intentions, multiple times, to multiple people yesterday about why I was so willing to lynch with the majority.

But I dont get why my 2 votes for miz is seen as such a negative? I even waited the second time to let people talk rather than just lynch him.

I feel like people havent given me a fair thought if they vote me so quickly, at least question me about what you find suspicious? Like, seriously, what do you want from me?



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Linkzmax said:
Final-Fan said:

How likely do you think it is that scum would have an ability that lets them intercept and read messages given by the moderator to other players? 

Were you trying to instill greater confidence that Mr.P is not scum or do you think there could in fact be a mafia journalist?

"instill" may not be quite the word, but yes, I don't think there is a significant chance of a mafia journalist and I wanted to get him to think real hard about what he was suggesing.  I didn't want to flat out push my own opinion on him but I guess I wanted an equivalent result



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