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BladeSymphony said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:

If I got lynch I don't care because my role is really disruptive. Might as well lose me now than having doubts later on. 

But I want you guys look into MrP and Armi. That's all. I will be busy now.

As for Zero. Don't asked read between the lines. HoS on you by the way. 

I don't buy your commotion a while ago. 

I'm beginning to think your role directly conflicts with mine. I can't be quite sure, but from the way you're phrasing it, that strongly seems like it would be the case. And if that's true...

I'm thinking the scum list would look a lot like this: Scum: Mr. P, Arminillo, Trucks, Stefl

But only if you're telling the truth, if not, then it's back square one, though I feel the mafia might be gunning for my head tonight considering my softclaims. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Unvote Noctis

I have no idea what you could be thinking at this point. You softclaimed to know for a fact Noctis is scum. Noctis thinks Mr.P is scum and claims that he is the opposite of what you think.

What scenario could you possibly be thinking of in which Noctis is town and knows Mr.P is scum?

If my last question to Noctis wasn't obvious, I think he's softclaiming a role that he should have flat out claimed yesterDay.



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Final-Fan said:
BladeSymphony said:

I have trouble believing Mr. P is scum. Why do you think that?

How likely do you think it is that scum would have an ability that lets them intercept and read messages given by the moderator to other players? 

Were you trying to instill greater confidence that Mr.P is not scum or do you think there could in fact be a mafia journalist?



zero129 said:

Why are you missing trucks first vote in this?. Also why do you only have trucks down as voting 1 time?.

It looks like at some point Clyde took my point about Trucks vote not being in bold to heart. So just as spurge's vote for you didn't count, neither did Trucks. I could've sworn Clyde continued to count that vote up until he moved to miz, but now only the very first votals show that vote.

zero129 said:
Linkzmax said:
I have a town vibe from Arminillo, though I won't be voting for a time limit any time soon.

Do you steel feel like arminillo is town?

I do.

zero129 said:
Linkzmax said:

Can you state why Trucks voted miz in your own words?

I know his questioning of me was weak, but 1) it still draws my attention to him to see what he's actually contributing and 2) I don't know how anyone could make a strong case against me. Going back to spurge's question about lynching me, scum are going to have to flail quite hard if they want to take me out in the Day.

He had no reason.  OR at least no good one. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8205550

Trucks has played this game long enough to know he should of voted time extension and removed his vote from miz.

But do explain to me why trucks reasoning was good?.

[snip]

How bout? http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8209088

You're blaming Trucks for not voting for a time extension when he wasn't here?

Again, I've never said it's strong or good. I just see other votes as worse. I think you've been tunneling him ever since he voted(wether Clyde counts it or not) for you and you've been basing connections off of it from the beginning as well.



zero129 said:
Baalzamon said:
The point I'm making is if somebody was to reveal themself as any role (whether it be cop, doctor, watcher, etc), you don't lynch them just to test if their role was actually that. This can obviously change after day 1 if you want their revealed night results confirmed, but wuat you are pushing is downright wrong.

Im just quoting this for memory sake. You dont lynch them but yet you played a nice part in Miz's lynch train.

Good job town. Fucking off to a great start already -_- .

I'm now looking into everyone who had a vote on Miz for a stupid reason. Im also looking into everyone who kept their vote on him with a stupid reason after he claimed tracker...

Really? You are as bad as the news. Highlight what you want to see, and ignore the rest of the sentence cause it doesn't prove your point.

I never said just "you don't lynch them". I said you don't lynch them JUST to test their roleclaim, which is what was being pushed.



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zero129 said:
BladeSymphony said:

I am willing to find scum using any means, if people want to suspect me that's fine. But I am certain one or two scum likely bandwagoned on your lynch vote. It's an easy way to find them and narrow down some leads after night 1.

 

Baalzamon said:
You wanted to claim town bomb so you would survive at least 1 night...what? The claim pretty much means you are now either worthless or you are mafia. Realistically, it makes you a pretty safe lynch for town because quite frankly, there isn't much to lose.

I'll keep my vote where it is. If you do wind up town tracker, only 1 person can be blamed for this mislynch.

So you where talking earlier about how if someone claims such a role etc you dont vote them. Yet here you are keeping your vote on a person who claimed watcher instead of removing your vote or voting time extension so we could of got more info. Highly scummy move.

Arminillo said:
I am replacing my vote on Miz. I think his death at this point will yield positive results for town either way he flips.

Vote: Miz

Super scummy move. You voted for miz after he claimed.

Linkzmax said:

I'm back. Catching up. I don't think Arm's vote is a hammer and as I said in my last post, I would prefer if nobody hammers so we have until deadline to talk.

How can  you not think thats a hammer vote? please explain..

zero129 said:

Thats my main suspects for today.

I fully believe trucks is mafia for a number of reasons that i stated yesterday. But my main reason is his points for his weak ass votes.

Arminillo or Blade have a high chance of being scum. I dont believe both of them are since i think both of them are new to mafia?. But i do believe the is about an 80% chance one of them is mafia.

And then the is Mr.P. He has been having bells ringing in my head for awhile now. More so after him jumping on the Miz vote only to then remove it and vote noc.

My only problem is, other then trucks my main suspect pool seem to be new :-/ .

Im also bringing this up again

miz votes stefl
linkz votes stefl
platina votes stefl

Made this happen


stefl votes miz (Could be town but i dont like his claim)
trucks votes miz (2 weak votes and very bad reasons for them)
spurge votes miz (Confirmed town)

That was the first 3 votes that was placed on Miz with no real reasons once so ever.

Then we had the rest of them

arminillo votes miz (Once again no reason giving other then wanting to end the night)

blade votes miz (No reason other then a "Gut" feeling)

mr. p votes miz (From what i can see no real reason giving)

To add to this list. Here is the rest of the votes.

baalz votes miz (Didnt see much of a reason)

noctis votes miz (Was seemingly trying to catch scum jumping on the hammer?)

arminillo votes miz (He placed this vote back on miz after miz claimed tracker!)

Are you trying to act stupid? Once again, I never stated you just plain don't vote for somebody who roleclaims. I said you don't do it for the sake of simply testingthe roleclaim.

 

You then go on to say I voted miz for no apparent reason, yet my reasoning was made pretty clear (are you even reading my entire posts or are you just picking out little parts to make me sound bad). My reasoning was because he claimed town bomb, which is an idiotic town claim. So we either had somebody who was effectively a vanilla, or we had a mafia. It was a very safe lynch, relative to how much town would be affected.

Going on to switch your roleclaim after your first stupid one didn't do shit doesn't magically make you less scummy. It makes you desperate. It also doesn't mean I voted him to "test" his claim, which is what I said you shouldn't do. I flat out didn't believe it, for numerous reasons as stated above on why his claim simply made no sense.



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zero129 said:

Well im more blaming him for placing the vote in the first place. didnt realise he wasnt on to remove it...

Also thats a very nice fluffy post from trucks with his own words for why he voted for miz.

did miz say "exactly" what trucks is making out in that post?.

Clearly my main suspects would of been Stefl, Trucks, and spurge.

They are the 3 long time mafia players who didnt have a strong reason for voting.

Stefl has claimed (Could still be lying and partnered with mr.p). Spurge is dead and confirmed town. That leaves trucks.

But if you want us to work on the newer players i can do that too?.

I'm not faulting you for disliking the vote so much. I just don't share you opinion on it.

I'm not sure if you mean fluffy as in it's fake or you're glad that he further explained his vote? If you'd like, I think others also had an opinion on the explanation.

Do you mean did miz respond to that post?

I understand your point, but one thing about your voting pattern. If you're assuming Stefl is town, why did Trucks try to save himself by hopping behind the weak vote on miz instead of the decent train on Stefl that was already established?

I also meant to ask why you seem to have an issue with thinking both newbs could be scum?



zero129 said:
Baalzamon said:

Total Votes Cast:

Spurge: 2

Prof: 3

Zero: 3

Armanillo: 3

Stefl: 2

Miz: 4

Linkz: 1

Platina: 2

Final-Fan: 2

Blade: 2

Noctis: 1

Trucks: 1

Hairy Baalz: 2

Axum: 1

Mr. P: 1

 

So something I wanted to look at, figured I would share it. This can obviously mean a lot of things, but one thing is certain (imo). 4 votes shows a clear lack of actually trying to accomplish something today beyond just sticking random votes on "scummy" people in an attempt to slip under the radar yourself. I don't like it.

Why are you missing trucks first vote in this?. Also why do you only have trucks down as voting 1 time?.

Direct quote from the votals posted by the host, which apparently doesn't have it. What the hell is your problem with me?



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zero129 said:
Linkzmax said:

Why? :P

Was this ever answered i cant find it?

Vote: Zero

 

That is staying put until you can give me a logical reason on why you have such a problem with me.

The ironic part about all the stuff you are quoting is for anybody actually reading all of my posts, it is absolutely nothing.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

zero129 said:
Baalzamon said:

Really? You are as bad as the news. Highlight what you want to see, and ignore the rest of the sentence cause it doesn't prove your point.

I never said just "you don't lynch them". I said you don't lynch them JUST to test their roleclaim, which is what was being pushed.

But it still doesnt change my point now does it?. You still done what you told others to not do...

 

zero129 said:
Baalzamon said:

Really? You are as bad as the news. Highlight what you want to see, and ignore the rest of the sentence cause it doesn't prove your point.

I never said just "you don't lynch them". I said you don't lynch them JUST to test their roleclaim, which is what was being pushed.

But it still doesnt change my point now does it?. You still done what you told others to not do...

Ok, it's confirmed, you have an IQ less than 75.

Let me put it a little simpler for you. I told people not to vote for him JUST to test his role. I didn't vote for him just to test his role. So sorry to burst your bubble, which I really don't understand your suspicion all of a sudden, but I in no way went against what I said.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

I have no clue how that quoted you twice?



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.