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Final-Fan said:
I admit I have only a weak case against Arminillo, but his relentless insistence on flavor hunting and his apparent lack of attention to (or memory of?) actual posts in this thread is very worrying. Who will defend him?

Vote Arminillo

How am i being relentless when i just said i was going to backoff on flavorhunting? I also dont like that term, its invaldative and i think i havent presented an illogical argument based on flavor all game.



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On another note, its going to be very hard for me to defend myself or make large posts in the up coming days but i will try to at least read.



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BladeSymphony said:
Linkzmax said:

I thought he was scum until it became apparent how much would need to have happened last Night for that to be the case. Now he's either town or he and Mr.P are scum together.

I have trouble believing Mr. P is scum. Why do you think that?

How likely do you think it is that scum would have an ability that lets them intercept and read messages given by the moderator to other players? 



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Arminillo said:
Final-Fan said:
I admit I have only a weak case against Arminillo, but his relentless insistence on flavor hunting and his apparent lack of attention to (or memory of?) actual posts in this thread is very worrying. Who will defend him?

Vote Arminillo

How am i being relentless when i just said i was going to backoff on flavorhunting? I also dont like that term, its invaldative and i think i havent presented an illogical argument based on flavor all game.

Good point on the first part, but what is "invaldative" supposed to mean? 

It's not that your claims about the alignments of Persona characters are wrong, it's that those arguments have no known bearing on this game, except as a loose tie to the style of powers a player might have, if they have powers.  Even then, it's just a guessing game IMO as to what aspects of the character Clyde chose to intrepret into a mafia role, and how.  A guessing game that distracts and detracts from other discussion. 



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Final-Fan said:
BladeSymphony said:

I have trouble believing Mr. P is scum. Why do you think that?

How likely do you think it is that scum would have an ability that lets them intercept and read messages given by the moderator to other players? 

It certainly seems but is there a reason a townee can't have the same ability?

If Mr. P is scum, and if by some miracle, Noctis is telling the truth, despite my claims of him being scum, then as I said, there's a particular scenario here where the puzzle pieces fit. It just involves role claiming, which I doubt anyone is willing to do. That's one scenario.

Another is Mr. P isn't scum and Noctis is lying through his teeth.



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zero129 said:
BladeSymphony said:
That was a quite an interesting read.

I'm getting more and more town vibes from Trucks, on purpose or not, his demeanor has changed. I'll still be watching him. It's fishy how quickly the voters backed off of him, but I'd like my vote to count, and want to see a lynch.

Unvote Trucks

So I ask here:

miz, why shouldn't I vote for you? Why should I vote Stefl?
Stefl, why shouldn't I vote for you? Why should I vote miz?

If anyone else has input, let me know. I want to see a lynch, and I'm getting scum vibes from BOTH users right now.

I sincerely think there are mafia lurking who are throwing each other under the bus to save face as well. More than likely this is happening between those arguing in fact

Prof vs. Splurge
Stefl vs. miz

Etc.

Could be in cahoots and trying to say alive by blaming each other. We should consider this. Though it may not be, but the possibility should be left on the table.

This is so scummy.

ARRRRRRRGGGHHHHH

Ok so we have, Blades, Trucks, Arm.

I hate that my scum list is made up of 2 newbs but thats just how i see it so far.

Care to explain how my particular statement is scummy? I'm not remotely following your logic.



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BladeSymphony said:
Final-Fan said:

How likely do you think it is that scum would have an ability that lets them intercept and read messages given by the moderator to other players? 

It certainly seems but is there a reason a townee can't have the same ability?

If Mr. P is scum, and if by some miracle, Noctis is telling the truth, despite my claims of him being scum, then as I said, there's a particular scenario here where the puzzle pieces fit. It just involves role claiming, which I doubt anyone is willing to do. That's one scenario.

Another is Mr. P isn't scum and Noctis is lying through his teeth.

If I got lynch I don't care because my role is really disruptive. Might as well lose me now than having doubts later on. 

But I want you guys look into MrP and Armi. That's all. I will be busy now.

As for Zero. Don't asked read between the lines. HoS on you by the way. 

I don't buy your commotion a while ago. 



I won't be able to respond as much now. I will be busy.



Since I also suspect Armi.

Might as well do this.

UNVOTE

VOTE: Arminillo



zero129 said:
BladeSymphony said:

Care to explain how my particular statement is scummy? I'm not remotely following your logic.

Where is your reasoning?.

You asked both users to push each other into coming up with reasoning for why you should vote one or the other.

You said both where scummy yet "You" gave no reason as to how.

I also dont like how you said that you feel your getting more town vibes from trucks, yet your still going to be watching him, and how its fishy how the voters backed off (That includes you ya know).

But the key to all this. When you said you feel like mafia are throwing each other under the bus to save face.

I fully believe that this statement about how your getting town vibes from trucks, but your still going to be watching him, and your original vote on him was doing just that.

I fully admit I went with a gut feeling. It's day one. And I fully regret that. However, as of this point, I am actually hunting scum. Whether you believe I am town or not is your call. If you want to lose another town member, you can chase after me all you like.

Town vibes doesn't mean I think he's a townee at all. In fact as of this point my scum list looks very different from the info and softclaims Noctis has been giving me. In fact, if he's correct, the list looks more like this: Scum: Mr. P, Arminillo, Trucks, Stefl

Because his role seems to directly conflict with mine, I'm back at square one. Mafia is highly likely to attack one of us tonight, unless Noctis is lying through his teeth.

NoCtiS_NoX said:
BladeSymphony said:

It certainly seems but is there a reason a townee can't have the same ability?

If Mr. P is scum, and if by some miracle, Noctis is telling the truth, despite my claims of him being scum, then as I said, there's a particular scenario here where the puzzle pieces fit. It just involves role claiming, which I doubt anyone is willing to do. That's one scenario.

Another is Mr. P isn't scum and Noctis is lying through his teeth.

If I got lynch I don't care because my role is really disruptive. Might as well lose me now than having doubts later on. 

But I want you guys look into MrP and Armi. That's all. I will be busy now.

As for Zero. Don't asked read between the lines. HoS on you by the way. 

I don't buy your commotion a while ago. 

I'm beginning to think your role directly conflicts with mine. I can't be quite sure, but from the way you're phrasing it, that strongly seems like it would be the case. And if that's true...

I'm thinking the scum list would look a lot like this: Scum: Mr. P, Arminillo, Trucks, Stefl

But only if you're telling the truth, if not, then it's back square one, though I feel the mafia might be gunning for my head tonight considering my softclaims. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Unvote Noctis



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