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I honestly really hope miz isn't mafia, but at the moment I feel that he is town and am pretty sure there are a couple of mafia votes on him. My top 3 players I am watching for are all voting for miz which is a bit annoying because I don't see 3 mafia players all voting for the same player

Stefl made a weird statement and had an odd burst, where he revealed his role and told everyone to lynch him since he doesn't know how to play his role. It wasn't until a few days later when he finally addressed the reason why he posted the odd sentence. He then votes for miz (and from my assumptions) probably because of the growing suspicion on spurge, maybe to get votes away from him.

Trucks a day later also decides to vote for miz, which I found pretty odd and spurge eventually did as well. The sudden votes basically prompted miz to vote for trucks to get the vote away from stefl. The reason why I'm watching Trucks is because this does seem to be a move to save stefl (my assumption), by jumping on and basically agreeing with spurge's thoughts of miz acting weird

Finally, Arminillo. Not much can be said from him, but the quick vote for a time limit seemed pretty odd, stating he was getting bored and wanted night actions to see what will happen, in order to get more info. The reason why spurge isn't on my list is because of Arminillo's odd post with trusting spurge. Not sure what to make of this post as a well: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8208574.
(More Speculation) This is a reason why I can see mafia 3 votes for miz, because they may think that town won't expect 3 to all jump on to this vote. (I'm guessing there are 4 mafias though)

Again, a ton of speculations, and not really too much evidence to back this up, but with the recent votes my suspicions are growing.. If miz is mafia, basically everything here falls apart D:

Thoughts? Stefl, Trucks, Arminillo? Where do my assumptions fall short?



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Im simply saying it as it is. I wanted timelimit before clyde gave us a set end day, now that its here i retractrd my vote. I thought spurge seemed reasonable but his recent posts have been kind of incoherent. I actually dont care uf u suspect me rn, because i feel im mot going to be lynched at least today and i dont pose any immediate threat to mafia.



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axumblade said:
Arminillo said:

Trucks vote was gaining momentum, then miz vote was. And I just had a read on spurge that i will admit has recently been shaken. I would join a no vote day 1 if that was gaining traction. (I just want this day to end)

Any reason why you are looking forward to the end of the day so much? 

Linkzmax said:

Why is Stefl on your scum list now? Last I recall, you moved from third-party like a Jester to town vibes due to his PR claim.

And this is the first time you're mentioning miz at all. Can you point to anything that's given you scum vibes besides "your gut."

This seems to coincide with my feelings toward Stefl right now. And if they were both Mafia, it would make sense for Stefl to be on his list but not an actual vote. 

I have lready answered this question axum



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Arminillo said:
Linkzmax said:

Why spurge, and what do you mean by majority?

Trucks vote was gaining momentum, then miz vote was. And I just had a read on spurge that i will admit has recently been shaken. I would join a no vote day 1 if that was gaining traction. (I just want this day to end)

You seem to have no interest in a Stefl lynch though, even though he has a fair amount of votes. Any reason for that?



Platina said:
I honestly really hope miz isn't mafia, but at the moment I feel that he is town and am pretty sure there are a couple of mafia votes on him. My top 3 players I am watching for are all voting for miz which is a bit annoying because I don't see 3 mafia players all voting for the same player

Stefl made a weird statement and had an odd burst, where he revealed his role and told everyone to lynch him since he doesn't know how to play his role. It wasn't until a few days later when he finally addressed the reason why he posted the odd sentence. He then votes for miz (and from my assumptions) probably because of the growing suspicion on spurge, maybe to get votes away from him.

Trucks a day later also decides to vote for miz, which I found pretty odd and spurge eventually did as well. The sudden votes basically prompted miz to vote for trucks to get the vote away from stefl. The reason why I'm watching Trucks is because this does seem to be a move to save stefl (my assumption), by jumping on and basically agreeing with spurge's thoughts of miz acting weird

Finally, Arminillo. Not much can be said from him, but the quick vote for a time limit seemed pretty odd, stating he was getting bored and wanted night actions to see what will happen, in order to get more info. The reason why spurge isn't on my list is because of Arminillo's odd post with trusting spurge. Not sure what to make of this post as a well: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8208574.
(More Speculation) This is a reason why I can see mafia 3 votes for miz, because they may think that town won't expect 3 to all jump on to this vote. (I'm guessing there are 4 mafias though)

Again, a ton of speculations, and not really too much evidence to back this up, but with the recent votes my suspicions are growing.. If miz is mafia, basically everything here falls apart D:

Thoughts? Stefl, Trucks, Arminillo? Where do my assumptions fall short?

In my case, my vote for miz wasn't really related to anything spurge said. It was a reaction to miz saying that he didn't care about analyzing intentions, "feelings" and that he wants to wait on power roles. I can't let that go, because if that's considered acceptable play then that's creating an environment where scum can easily sit back and go with the flow without being questionned.



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Linkzmax said:
BladeSymphony said:
That chart is just confusing.

Okay, forget the questions, apologies. I wanted to hear some reasoning from the voters about past games but that might be asking for too much

My current scum list consists of: Stefl, miz, Spurge

Not sure about zero.

These are the people who have exhibited the oddest behavior.

votes miz

He has the most votes and I'm going with the my gut.

Why is Stefl on your scum list now? Last I recall, you moved from third-party like a Jester to town vibes due to his PR claim.

And this is the first time you're mentioning miz at all. Can you point to anything that's given you scum vibes besides "your gut."

That's why I didn't vote for him. I still feel like he could have the jester role which is still scum. Scum doesn't just mean mafia. I voted miz because it seems like the other members calling him out know what they are talking about,  and he's playing very reserved, something mafia tend to do. Can't explain it past that. It's mostly a gut feeling. That and to be honest, I want to see a lynch so we can start gathering information.

@spurge, mafia tactics can involve throwing each other under the bus, which is what you may be aiming for to gain town credibility.



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I'm voting stefl,
vote: stefl

Just want to give my reason why.
There are a couple reasons why I think stefl is a good vote.
One, I don't like to be dared not to do something. It's a personality thing, if someone tells me not to do something, or if I get the feeling like I'm being pushed not to do something, I will do it. It's not a spiteful thing, I guess it's kind of a rebellious thing. The major way I interpreted Stefl's claim was that he is either unlynchable or vengeful townie. That was my first thought. I thought his strategy might turn up something interesting, so I put out just a little nudge to see who would bite. The results of this will turn up shortly when whatever his claim is, or whatever his flip is shows through.
I actually think a lot of what's been put against him is genuine, and the points are pretty solid, though currently I am more interested in Spurge's flip. But I don't see that particular lynch going through any time soon, so I'm content with this current series of events.

Conversely, I also see stefl's claim as a dare, and personally, I don't take dares or challenges very well. I am a rebellious kind of person, and if I get the feeling like I'm being asked or pushed to do something, I will rebel against it. My other suspicion is that stefl is playing this way in order to take attention away from himself by putting himself right in the spotlight.

So, with both of those circumstances in mind, Ibelieve this is likely the best lynch today. I'm also keeping in mind the counter lynch train, where I currently only trust 2 on the miz train, I trust a majority of the stefl train just from their individual posts. (this isn't even counting their cases against stefl, just their play so far)

Ok, well, now that that's settled, since the day is probably going to be over relatively shortly, I just wanted to reiterate that I suspect stefl, spurge, and trucks. I think more pressure should be put into them on the following days.



Do we have an official timer? I will claim roughly 21 o'clock my time



Stefl1504 said:
Do we have an official timer? I will claim roughly 21 o'clock my time

By that I mean - a timer to day end