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miz1q2w3e on 19 December 2016

This is why people need to answer questions. Otherwise, all I can do is start making assumptions on your behalf. You are seriously frustrating.

If this is due to a change in behavior, then I point you to the many others who have done the same. Except in my case, I have explained myself clearly. I thought Noctis and axum were scum for lurking last game, but they turned out to be town. What does this tell you?

Like I said, I see no value in chasing after random feelings. I'm not gonna change this view anytime soon. Case in point, oooooh so ironically, you're barking up the wrong tree right now.

All I can say is that, you better remember this next time I argue for NoLynches and the importance of PRs.



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miz1q2w3e on 19 December 2016
spurgeonryan said:
I don't remember you being a cusser. One of another of our players scum tells.

You at playing different, which could be like you said and I have said, town had their assets handed to them last game and you want a change.

I'm not another player.

But yeah, I'll admit, I'm more pissed about last game than I let on earlier, hence the change of heart. Can you blame me? I did a shit ton of posting last game, and it amounted to nothing.

spurgeonryan said:
Then dont, how many votes do you even have on you? Why the blow up!

Re this, I don't want to be the focus of town like Mr.P was last game. I wanna nip it in the bud.



TruckOSaurus on 19 December 2016
miz1q2w3e said:
TruckOSaurus said:

That's the whole point of the game. Figuring out who's lying and who's really honest with the occasional boost from information coming from a PR.

I'll grant you that I might have stuck to zero a little too long but I've shared my thoughts about Stefl, Noctis, Mr. Playstation and you. I'll continue to do so as the Day unfolds, I might be far off, I might be right on the money but at least I'm contributing.

Again, I disagree. Now, is a mere disagreement worth lynching over?

You know what, though? I realized your argument doesn't necessarily have to make logical sense... if you're scum. Quick to bandwagon using Stefl's vote as the start, flipping from Zero to me so easily with vague half-assed reasoning.

Yeah, you're scum. I don't blame spurge for thinking I'm scummy, since it's true that I was lurking earlier (I know that's the reason he's after me, even though he won't say it for some reason). If you had just said that, then I'd be less inclined to think you're scum, but your attempt to make a case out of nothing, just to join the BW, is scummy af.

Vote: Trucks

I still think Stefl is scummy, but tbh one thing that bugs me is that scum rarely start BWs on their own. Yours is classic scum behavior, though.

Your post read like you were going to sit on your ass and wait for power roles to tell you what to do. Did I misunderstand you? 'Cause that's sounds pretty darn scummy to me.

Also, I don't see how in the world my vote could be considered a bandwagon vote. Stefl voted for you a long time ago, there was no lynch train going on you. A bandwagon vote is when after seeing that people are choosing a particular player to vote for, someone hops on and follows the trend.



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miz1q2w3e on 19 December 2016
TruckOSaurus said:

Your post read like you were going to sit on your ass and wait for power roles to tell you what to do. Did I misunderstand you? 'Cause that's sounds pretty darn scummy to me.

Also, I don't see how in the world my vote could be considered a bandwagon vote. Stefl voted for you a long time ago, there was no lynch train going on you. A bandwagon vote is when after seeing that people are choosing a particular player to vote for, someone hops on and follows the trend.

What's wrong with wanting real info, as opposed to vibes and feels?

In fact, I'm never gonna let this go. You barking up the wrong the tree right now just further proves my point.

But okay Re the definition of BW. My bad. I still disagree with your reasoning, though. Sure, I'm playing differently, but my world view and strategy have changed. Not playing differently would be the weird thing to do here.



Linkzmax on 19 December 2016
spurgeonryan said:
Linkzmax said:
@spurge:
I don't think "everyone" is very different, but why are you choosing to side with one person who's changed about another person who's changed. It's like your question for Axum, why not the other way?

[snip]

I just have a bad feeling about Miz. Plus does he ever cuss?

Also I obviously have not been on since that question you asked or I would have answered. Again very strange of you to only wait a few hours and then get impatient for a reply.

Why get defensive and testy over me noticing a random post from you. Just stating it was random.

As I said before, but maybe you are just skipping along. I think after last game people are going to be different, it is up to us to weed out who is being different to be better and who is being different because they are scum. Right now I am sitting with Miz being different because he is scum. AS we see every game we could still be wrong. Town has a long history of failures. In just the last 3 games I am personally 1.5 for 3. That is not a good success rate. No one knows what is going to happen you can just do your best.

If I voted now it would be for Miz. Tomorrow it may be someone else and I may have a bigger list.

Now may I have a question that I will give you all day to answer.

Why is one of our most rational players posting random posts and all of a sudden being irrational. You know people are on at different times. Why would you push me over not answering right away?

Also, what do you think about Prof this game again, I must have missed it.  Strange and random that you would let him slide.

I don't remember miz cursing, but I don't consider it a genral scum-tell as you seem to.

My apologies, I thought you saw it since we posted at nearly the same time and you read Mafia threads seemingly every waking second.(Seriously, stop driving and posting. Nobody wants something to happen to you or someone else)

Maybe you meant nothing by it, but "just stating it was random" came off as invalidating my opinion. You're doing it again by saying I'm being irrational.

I saw your post about many players being different and trying to work out who's playing differently together. I asked you why miz in particular, because you didn't explain until recently.

prof has not shown his town not-mafia tell yet, so I'm very wary of him. I have tried not to butt heads with him since my return to Mafia, as I usually get in the way of his proffing when I do.(Like last game, though sure he was SK. Just means I need to read the scum vibes, which were there, even if he displays his tell) This game, though I want more people to vote Stefl, I didn't like his way of trying to get pressure, but I want to see what comes of it. I will still try to stop him if I think he's doing something hurtful to town, but if I'm heavily leaning scum on him then I'll throw the whole case at once. He's usually quiet on weekends, so I expect his activity to pick up now which will help in a read.



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Linkzmax on 19 December 2016
Mr.Playstation said:
Linkzmax said:

Indeed he was, so why would you come up with a town read from that?

So this question was one-dimensional after all? I guess I gave you too much credit after you gave Noctis flak.

I think it was more of a genuine reaction kind of quick rather than a making stuff up quickly reaction. Once I pressed him for more info he kept it up quite well, so I do believe that he was saying the truth and that he has never even heard anyone mention a quicktopic.

You didn't answer my question regarding Stefl. You said, "I really only see Stefl's vote for me as a reaction to my previous game, he was quite angry post-game." Why does that cause you to see him as town?



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Linkzmax on 19 December 2016
miz1q2w3e said:
Linkzmax said:

While I agree with you on the PR soft claim feeling like the soft claim as mafia last round, I don't see any issue with the name claim. If mafia have safe claims then they're designed to blend in with town names. Why do you think a townie wouldn't want to name claim?

I dunno. I just feel like a townie would want to keep everything hidden until the right moment. Whereas someone who wants to push a narrative would want to get the info out there asap. That was why prof's claim last game felt so scummy to me.

In that case, what did you think of prof's first post this game?



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Clyde32 on 19 December 2016

Votals

Put your votes on a separate line and in bold, if not in this format they will not be counted.

The day will end on December 21st at 7:00 PM EST. A vote for a time limit or time extension must be a 33% of the players' votes to pass.

Vote Time Limit. 5 votes required to pass

arminillo

 

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Player L7 L6 L5 L4 L3 L2 L1 Lynch
zero129 Final Fan theprof00
         
TruckOSaurus zero129 arminillo BladeSymphony  mizq1w2e3        
Stefl1504 Platina linkzmax 
         
Mr.Playstation Noctis_NoX
           
mizq1w2e3 Stefl1504 TruckOSaurus  spurgeonryan          

 

History:

spurge votes trucks
prof votes zero
noctis votes Clyde
spurge unvotes
zero votes trucks
zero is confused
arminillo votes trucks
stefl votes mr.p
blade votes Clyde
miz votes stefl
linkz votes stefl
platina votes stefl
final-fan votes zero
blade votes trucks
noctis votes mr. p
stefl unvotes
stefl votes miz
trucks votes miz
spurge votes miz
miz votes trucks



BladeSymphony on 19 December 2016

Posting to confirm activity. I have nothing to really add here as I don't have knowledge of past games. Miz suddenly voting for Trucks after Trucks accusing him is a bit iffy however.



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miz1q2w3e on 19 December 2016
Linkzmax said:
miz1q2w3e said:

I dunno. I just feel like a townie would want to keep everything hidden until the right moment. Whereas someone who wants to push a narrative would want to get the info out there asap. That was why prof's claim last game felt so scummy to me.

In that case, what did you think of prof's first post this game?

I didn't even think it was supposed to mean anything until you made me go back and Google it, lol.

So he claimed hanged man. I still don't really know what it means; I never played Persona.

Having realized this now, Stefl's quick nameclaim makes more sense. His early hint at PR still doesn't, though. Maybe he's not a beneficial PR, hence the "fucked" bit.