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Welp, I guess I'm caught up, though it doesn't feel like it. I dunno, I didn't really get many strong reads, but fuck it I'll post em anyway:
- Town: Arminillo, Zero, BladeSymphony, Noctis (unfortunately, he's playing the same as last game).
- Maf: I guess Stefl and prof maybe.

I heavily agree with Platina's portion of the post here; Stefl unintentionally implied (both in wording, and logic) that they are on opposite teams. Also, Stefl doesn't really care if Mr.P is inno, and want to lynch him regardless. Sound familiar?



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Arminillo said:
Platina said:

So if we limit the time, is it better for a quick lynch or go for a no lynch?

How would I know. Either way, we actually have information to go on rather than delay the inevitable.

Just wondering which option is better in your opinion

Not sure what you mean by that exactly, reread it a few times but still don't know what information and inevitability you are referring to D:



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zero129 said:
Final-Fan said:

3.  It wasn't because of you going after your voters that I made that statement; it was how you were incredibly careless, double quoting one guy at another's expense and double voting the guy you forgot to quote while not voting the guy you double quoted!  I can't even imagine being this careless in a game myself, regardless of alignment; so, after thinking about it, I can't really say that informs my view of you as potential scum until I get a better handle on your baseline level of crazy. 

Later on, as Linkz pointed out, you falsely claimed credit for the Mr.P mislynch, but that wasn't the sort of thing I was thinking of when I wrote the statement you quoted, as can be inferred from the fact that I was referring to the "initial votes" and not the later discussion in that sentence. 

4.  Remind me again, what "reply to mr.p" are you talking about?  I can't quite spot it, only a comment directed at him in a reply to ME:  "Mr.P make sure you do take notes. Cos what Final fan is telling me to do here "IS" what got you lynched last game." 

And regardless of what you may or may not have said to Mr.P, the question remains:  what did I, Final-Fan, tell you, zero129, to do, that "IS" what got Mr.P lynched last game? 

I'm not going to let this go unanswered. 

3. Ok so you call being careless in a joke post (Remember i didnt really think trucks was for real with his vote at this stage) a big deal. Like i said wow i double pasted trucks name by mistake. It at the time was only a joke reply back. However i find it very very odd your making such a big deal out of it instead of just seeing it for what it was...

4. I already did reply to this but since your failing to see my point ill explain it for you. Pretty much in your post when you mentioned that you where going to go after mr.p until you seen me "Shoot myself in the foot" (Would love you to explain this in more detail for me) . you then said you where going to place your vote on me (For the silly reasons you stated up above) instead. You then told mr.p that this is not how you play.

(5) So my point is your coming after me since i was replying to people who was voting for me this game, something mr.p should of done last game. But all you guys went after mr.p last game for not replying back.. And now your saying mr.p shouldnt reply back to people who is voting for him since that will be bad..

(6) Ya know what id say the is about 80% chance your scum since your inconsistant with your actions...

3.  It's a large mistake within a small issue.  It looks to me like a very strange mistake to make, notwithstanding that you were joking around at the time, and this drew greater scrutiny from me.  I've already said that on further reflection I can't say the fact that you made those mistakes (you made more than one, remember) tells me that you're more likely to be scum. 

4.  By "shooting yourself in the foot" I mean that you are undermining your own position, by acting in a way that makes town question you, think you're stupid, think you're scum, or that sort of thing. 

5A.  So you're saying that, when you said, "Mr.P make sure you do take notes. Cos what Final fan is telling me to do here "IS" what got you lynched last game." you meant that I was attacking you for responding to your questioners (which translates to "telling you to not respond to your questioners" apparently), and that the reason we lynched Mr.P last game was because he didn't respond to his questioners.  Is that an accurate description of your position? 

5B.  However, I've never said that anyone shouldn't reply to questions or accusations directed at them.  I've only said that, if they do so in a way that makes no goddamned sense even as a joke, it's fair to question them about their response.  I mean, you're acting like all you have to do is reply and no one gets to ask you about the reply that you made, and that's just blatant silliness.  You say, "but I was joking", I say, "OK but how could you possibly make all these mistakes even if you weren't taking it seriously", and you go "OMG get off my back you scum"

6.  Funnily enough, you directly contradicted yourself with these statements: 
However your vote on me isnt a policy lynch, thats just you trying to join the bandwagon....
Now I see trucks and finalfan and stefl and you all pushing the policy lynch rule and using the excuse of negitive playstyles and past games as your reasons for doing so.  (I haven't used past games, and only "negative playstyles" in that I'm questioning you about posts you are making, which is a reasonable thing to be doing even if you think I am being silly about what I choose to question.)
Maybe no one is policy lynching but the is people pushing for one.
(people pushing for one what?)

7.  At this point, I'm honestly not too worried about your initial reply that started all this anymore.  I accept that you are simply prone to that kind of massive error and carelessness that I simply have a hard time comprehending, regardless of town or scum.  But your reactions to the questioning have themselves led me to want to continue to question you even though the original point is moot.  Even though there are also other people in the town who just want to drop it all, I have nothing better to do than keep at it. 



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Linkzmax said:
Stefl1504 said:
I am scared, spurge is making more sense than usually >_>

So I'm not the only one that thinks so. I'm happy for the change and hopeful he's town.

Stefl1504 said:
Unvote

How likely do we gauge it that Arm and Mr.P did QT that QT discussion? I deem it not likely.

Heavy Town read on Arm and Spurge from my side so far, mediocre town read on Trucks and axum, slight town read on mr.p - feeling not to good about prof currently - and then there is miz, which I just feel like - he is scum - so:

Vote: miz

Other than your votes, I feel you've been playing very similar to last round. Are you aware of this, by which I mean is it your intent to appear that way?

Yes, I am aware D: I tried quite hard to emulate myself as town last game, which I deem pretty ez compared to how other players have their differences in playstyle



Platina said:
Arminillo said:

How would I know. Either way, we actually have information to go on rather than delay the inevitable.

Just wondering which option is better in your opinion

Not sure what you mean by that exactly, reread it a few times but still don't know what information and inevitability you are referring to D:

Um we have the information on who the mafia decided to kill and if they had a role, right? Right now we really now nothing



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zero129 said:
TruckOSaurus said:

I'm not a big fan of the interaction between Mr.P and Noctis. I don't think Noctis' tactics would have worked but I didn't really see the point in calling it out. Then Noctis's reaction to being called out by Mr. P was over the top too though. The weirdest part is Mr. P trying out the same kind of tactic on Arminillo right after.

I'm still ambivalent about Stefl, Miz has been unusually quiet. I was going to call out a link between you and Linkz yesterday when you failed to immediately call him scum when he said he might want to a vote for you but you eventually came around and you predictably think he's evil now.

I think the interactions between nocs and Mr.P was both of them wanting to be active since they where called uut so much for it last game. In this game both isnt really on my scum list yet. But like you i do find nocs reaction a bit shocking.

Stefl to me could very well be mafia. I dont remember playing enough games with him, but being on the same team as him last game has helped me notice his slips and its also helped me notice how he reacts to them. And i do believe stefl made a slip earlier on. However if his mafia or not yet im not sure i guess ill just have to wait and see if he makes any more slips.

I dont really think linkz is evil, but i do feel that if his town he would be better putting his time into someone else.

Anyway i like the last few posts from you. Its been giving me much better vibes then your earlier ones.

Reading the post where you said you didn't have to prove you're not a liability a bit earlier. I thought  about suggesting to you to list the players who you thought was scummy apart from the people who voted for you because that would show you're not only centered on yourself. 

Now, you did just that without having to be asked so I'm guessing I don't have any valid reason to keep my vote on you anymore.

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Should be good to go now. I'll try getting a re-read in today, and in particular will be focused on day 1 voting trends compared to last game.



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miz1q2w3e said:

Welp, I guess I'm caught up, though it doesn't feel like it. I dunno, I didn't really get many strong reads, but fuck it I'll post em anyway:
- Town: Arminillo, Zero, BladeSymphony, Noctis (unfortunately, he's playing the same as last game).
- Maf: I guess Stefl and prof maybe.

I heavily agree with Platina's portion of the post here; Stefl unintentionally implied (both in wording, and logic) that they are on opposite teams. Also, Stefl doesn't really care if Mr.P is inno, and want to lynch him regardless. Sound familiar?

@bold, no I implied that whoever he is on a team with will lose because of him, if I am scum and I know he is a townie why the fuck would I ever want to lynch him? From my point of view that would be destructive (doesn't change that I am still mad about his playstyle last game tho) With all he did so far in this day he is proving me wrong, I am fine with him overall if he keeps playing like this (he contributed more in like 2-3 posts this game than he did in all of last game).

I use his/our/their/my/your very carefully in comparison to the town/scum, it is the easiest way to manipulate people verbally. With 3 people left using our over the town is basically a gold mine, hell it even can be with 5 left. his/her team is really powerful when you don't know their allignment and should not be used as scum unless you already successfully painted someone as scum, just because people will stumble in the logical falacy that you imply team segregation unintentionally, it can also be a very powerful spell cast on a team-mate when you are about to be lynched anyway.



Stefl1504 said:
miz1q2w3e said:

Welp, I guess I'm caught up, though it doesn't feel like it. I dunno, I didn't really get many strong reads, but fuck it I'll post em anyway:
- Town: Arminillo, Zero, BladeSymphony, Noctis (unfortunately, he's playing the same as last game).
- Maf: I guess Stefl and prof maybe.

I heavily agree with Platina's portion of the post here; Stefl unintentionally implied (both in wording, and logic) that they are on opposite teams. Also, Stefl doesn't really care if Mr.P is inno, and want to lynch him regardless. Sound familiar?

@bold, no I implied that whoever he is on a team with will lose because of him, if I am scum and I know he is a townie why the fuck would I ever want to lynch him? From my point of view that would be destructive (doesn't change that I am still mad about his playstyle last game tho) With all he did so far in this day he is proving me wrong, I am fine with him overall if he keeps playing like this (he contributed more in like 2-3 posts this game than he did in all of last game).

I use his/our/their/my/your very carefully in comparison to the town/scum, it is the easiest way to manipulate people verbally. With 3 people left using our over the town is basically a gold mine, hell it even can be with 5 left. his/her team is really powerful when you don't know their allignment and should not be used as scum unless you already successfully painted someone as scum, just because people will stumble in the logical falacy that you imply team segregation unintentionally, it can also be a very powerful spell cast on a team-mate when you are about to be lynched anyway.

Scum logic alert: we should lynch him even if he's town, because reasons.

I noticed it in Darwin last game, but never followed through. Not this time, though.



axumblade said:
miz1q2w3e said:

Welp, I guess I'm caught up, though it doesn't feel like it. I dunno, I didn't really get many strong reads, but fuck it I'll post em anyway:
- Town: Arminillo, Zero, BladeSymphony, Noctis (unfortunately, he's playing the same as last game).

 

Someone pointed out last game that that is a tactic he uses. The less he really says, the harder it is to read him.

Ugh, I hate that.