Since you still have your vote one me, prof redirected his scummate off of the only threat to him dying?
In the "Arminillo is scum" hypothesis, he gets, on N1/D2, a block on unfoolable town investigation while simultaneously getting serious town credibility that, let's be honest, he's coasted all the way to endgame on? Not a terrible use of a clutch stall/win tool. At the time, I personally credited the blocking side effect to a noob mistake, but it could easily be otherwise.
Right now, in fact, I think he's even my top candidate. What about your prime suspects, guys? Top 1/2.
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| Arminillo said: @finalfan What profs plan was was likely this: by claiming he would die, he would not be lynched. That way he could redirect one more time, even if he was killed at night or figured out in the next day. Once again, i think mrp is clear for now. But i would like to ask mrp if he found anything suspicious about how baalz rewrote his poem to us compared to how it was messaged. |
Linkz already destroyed your scenario (I LOLed), but I just want to ask: you think the lovers had the redirect power?
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| Final-Fan said: In the "Arminillo is scum" hypothesis, he gets, on N1/D2, a block on unfoolable town investigation while simultaneously getting serious town credibility that, let's be honest, he's coasted all the way to endgame on? Not a terrible use of a clutch stall/win tool. At the time, I personally credited the blocking side effect to a noob mistake, but it could easily be otherwise. Right now, in fact, I think he's even my top candidate. What about your prime suspects, guys? Top 1/2. |
Outside of you as SK right? Arm would indeed be the only possible Redirector if prof didn't have the ability and it isn't you.
| Final-Fan said: Roleblocker as investigator? Points for ingenuity, I guess. That would blow up my budding theory of "lynch those two cause they are the only two (aside from vigilante) without investigative roles". |
No double vote enabler that only works if a power role wasnt used.
He couls target me for instance, and confirm I did nothing. Obviously it runs the risk of me being mafia and having 2 votes.
Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.
I still think an SK with redirect is ridiculous. If we do actually have that, the game is probably over.
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This is pissing me off. I am in no way suspect. Youre saying i have the ability to either enable doublevote or redirect?
Thats stupid.
Put your money where your mouth is and vote me.
I would like to remind you all my first vote was for trucks. And you think mafia me, prof, and zero all wanted to kill godfather day one. Why would we all put our eggs in one basket like that? I also couldve kept him alive when he claimed doctor, as noone was budging, but i instead sided again with the other two mafia buddies? Why would you think im so stupid?
This game has gone on too damn long and this is what the mafia wanted by keeping me alive, using the flavor against me and knowing that at the same time i have little influence over the other players.
Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda!!!!
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Outside of you as SK right? Arm would indeed be the only possible Redirector if prof didn't have the ability and it isn't you. |
Let's get down to brass tacks here. If you are town and lynch me, you lose even if I'm both SK and redirector: 2 town, 2 mafia and even if you know who's who you have to lose a coin flip eventually. I am telling you that I am neither.
What is the win condition you are envisioning for this town with a redirector who is also the SK?
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| Arminillo said: This is pissing me off. I am in no way suspect. Youre saying i have the ability to either enable doublevote or redirect? Thats stupid. Put your money where your mouth is and vote me. I would like to remind you all my first vote was for trucks. And you think mafia me, prof, and zero all wanted to kill godfather day one. Why would we all put our eggs in one basket like that? I also couldve kept him alive when he claimed doctor, as noone was budging, but i instead sided again with the other two mafia buddies? Why would you think im so stupid? This game has gone on too damn long and this is what the mafia wanted by keeping me alive, using the flavor against me and knowing that at the same time i have little influence over the other players. |
Well if nothing else you've mastered the art of brinksmanship. I hope you come back for future games without a Persona theme. Hopefully they'll go a bit faster. (Says the guy who auto-time-extends)
I will look back at your interactions on the Trucks lynch.
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No double vote enabler that only works if a power role wasnt used. He couls target me for instance, and confirm I did nothing. Obviously it runs the risk of me being mafia and having 2 votes. |
What I'm getting at is, what does it actually tell you that he didn't use a power role? Not everyone with a power uses it every Night. Arminillo himself is one such, allegedly. It does tell you some info but it's very weak, AND it has to be confirmed. If the double voter isn't on the final lynch target, there is no result for the "investigation". Roleblocker tells you "this person didn't use a power, so anything you see happen wasn't done by him", which is at least a reliable result (except for redirection), albeit even weaker investigation-wise.
But like I said, it was a good thought, and points for creativity. I just don't think it adds much to the case, but an idea like that is good to have had, and to have more like it in the future. It made me think of it in a new way even if I didn't change my mind.
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