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Final-Fan on 08 January 2017

Thoughts:
-Mr.P is confirmed in his abilities, even if his alignment is in question: therefore he does not have additional powers such as blocking that he executed last Night.
-Final-Fan is confirmed in his abilities also, given the lack of counterclaim.
-Baalz has his poems, which it is possible to fake.
-Linkz claimed blocker. Did axum say he got a message that he was blocked?
-Arminillo claimed double vote enabler, and it is confirmed Stefl was able to double vote once this game. He did come up with an excuse as to why his cooldown power was even MORE limited later in the game.

-I consider myself and Mr.P to be absolutely out of the question as candidates for the mystery redirect, and not just from my personal perspective of knowing my own role.
-Arminillo is almost at the same level, but mafia jack of all trades is possible (as I was thinking with zero). However, not only do these two powers make a very strange set, but also there is more than one claimed redirect and jacks do not generally get more than one of anything.
-Linkz could hypothetically be a bus driver whose targets also get blocked, but this would be way OP as a mafia role and there is no reason I see to continue to hide it as town.

So, IF a block by Linkz is actually 100% confirmed, then by process of elimination it looks pretty likely that Baalz has got some explaining to do.



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Linkzmax on 08 January 2017
axumblade said:
Linkzmax said:

My name is Chie Satonaka. I am Town Roleblocker.
Night One I random.org'd platina as my target. That's why I mentioned earlier I'd have thought he was scum if he were still alive toDay given two Night kills.
Night Two I chose axum.

Given all the claims so far, I'd wager there's a few liars.(clearly at least one between two docs) If you aren't claiming vig,(which I had you figured for, but would have given Trucks the benefit of the doubt for had he claimed it) then it'll be clear a SK is on our hands as well.

I can at least verify this much. I did say my ability failed...which led to a paranoia about whether or not I was gonna make it last night. 


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Final-Fan on 08 January 2017
Linkzmax said:
Final-Fan said:
Example: prof and zero are alive; mafia won't lynch prof and prof's lover won't lynch prof; therefore prof wins. Also, prof is mafia and probably convinces zero to refuse to lynch mafia players also; therefore town loses.

1) There's no chance you could have foreseen he was a lover unless you're mafia.

2) He turned on his Godfather and possibly his Traitor. He was going to out another mafiso if he was alive toDay. They were likely Tragic Lovers.

No, I was completely surprised by the flip, but here is what you're not getting, and it's getting increasingly strange that you can't see my perspective:  whatever plan prof had that involved false-claiming to be dead by morning was obviously going to be too late to stop the following Day, and I had no intention to allow that to happen. 



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Final-Fan on 08 January 2017
Linkzmax said:
axumblade said:

I can at least verify this much. I did say my ability failed...which led to a paranoia about whether or not I was gonna make it last night. 

And please remind me who axum targeted that Night?  (i.e. he was notified he was blocked, and didn't just assume he was blocked because the target died?)



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Linkzmax on 08 January 2017
Final-Fan said:
Linkzmax said:

1) There's no chance you could have foreseen he was a lover unless you're mafia.

2) He turned on his Godfather and possibly his Traitor. He was going to out another mafiso if he was alive toDay. They were likely Tragic Lovers.

No, I was completely surprised by the flip, but here is what you're not getting, and it's getting increasingly strange that you can't see my perspective:  whatever plan prof had that involved false-claiming to be dead by morning was obviously going to be too late to stop the following Day, and I had no intention to allow that to happen. 

So you thought zero, prof, and Trucks were all mafia together?



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Linkzmax on 08 January 2017
Final-Fan said:
Linkzmax said:

And please remind me who axum targeted that Night?  (i.e. he was notified he was blocked, and didn't just assume he was blocked because the target died?)

Careful FF, if he got a "sucessful" message Night One, it means you shot at prof.



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Linkzmax on 08 January 2017
axumblade said:
I am the town doctor. Yukiko Amagi.
Night one I protected theprof, hence why there is no night kill from one of the scum. Night 2 I protected myself.

Here's his targets.



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Final-Fan on 08 January 2017
Linkzmax said:
Final-Fan said:

No, I was completely surprised by the flip, but here is what you're not getting, and it's getting increasingly strange that you can't see my perspective:  whatever plan prof had that involved false-claiming to be dead by morning was obviously going to be too late to stop the following Day, and I had no intention to allow that to happen. 

So you thought zero, prof, and Trucks were all mafia together?

My confidence that zero was scum was much lower than it had been prior to the flip.  He could have been a cop-rolecop and lying about the commute.  Besides which:  why not?  But no, I didn't have that specific scenario in mind when I chose my target. 



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Final-Fan on 08 January 2017
Linkzmax said:
Final-Fan said:

And please remind me who axum targeted that Night?  (i.e. he was notified he was blocked, and didn't just assume he was blocked because the target died?)

Careful FF, if he got a "sucessful" message Night One, it means you shot at prof.

Since when do doctors get told whether there was a kill attempt?  You point at someone, they don't die, end of story. 



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Final-Fan on 08 January 2017

To clarify the above: "successful" pingback could just mean "you successfully used your ability, regardless of whether a kill attempt was made". If he even gets "success" pingbacks! I don't.



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My advice to fanboys: Brag about stuff that's true, not about stuff that's false. Predict stuff that's likely, not stuff that's unlikely. You will be happier, and we will be happier.

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Sen. Pat Moynihan
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