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zero129 said:
axumblade said:
I am the town doctor. Yukiko Amagi.
Night one I protected theprof, hence why there is no night kill from one of the scum. Night 2 I protected myself.

And the truth comes out. Yet linkz as everyone can see is now trying to distance himself from trucks and tunnel the suspicions onto me.

The vig should really shoot linkz tonight after we lynch trucks since its clear linkz is scum..

How do you know axum isn't also fakeclaiming?



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zero129 said:
axumblade said:

Wasn't there discussion of Trucks potentially being godfather before zero came up with his story? 

No. linkz said to blade not to trust innocent scans since they could be a godfather. Linkz didnt know when he said that at the time, i already had trucks scanned as the Godfather. With linkz being the first to mention about Godfather and with him coming to the defense of trucks more then once really adds up when you see things from my eyes.

I also did not know at that time that Blade had scanned Trucks.

Also I was not the first to mention Godfather:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8214937 - FF proposes a GF could counter the cop as well(plat mentions it too, but in response to this post)
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8215391 - Noctis says he confirms cop, assuming mafia don't have a GF(I respond to this, then FF, and a small conversation between the three of us continues)
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8218294 - prof asserting Miller and GF are both likely to exist due to Psychic
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8221316 - I warn Blade his being left alive could be due to a GF/innocent scanning role wanting to be "confirmed"



zero129 said:
Linkzmax said:

My name is Chie Satonaka. I am Mafia Roleblocker.

Thats more like it. This is what you really are...

herp derp, let me see if I can do this too..

zero129 said:

My name is Maya Amano Mafia Jack of all trades - my skills make me quite the sleuth.

Oh snap, you got some 'splainin to do!



zero129 said:
Final-Fan said:
I am vigilante, yes town and not SK. I will check my name when I get back.
Night One I made a decision to not kill, so you alleged doctors can stop patting yourselves on the back.
Night Two I obviously killed Platina. I think it was the right choice even in hindsight; although I obviously wouldn't kill him knowing he was town, that was unknowable at the time.

I dont think you should of claimed. you should of just shot linkz tonight on trucks flip.

Now since linkz is the mafia roleblocker, they are going to block your kill...

Firstly, I stated flat out that I suspected FF is the vig. So as mafia I wouldn't need his claim to ensure I could block a kill.

Secondly, Nice trying to appeal to emotion, but good job with another perspective slip. If trucks gets lynched and the game isn't already over then if FF claims he was blocked at Night, I'm going to be lynched. If FF is the only death, and assumedly flips vig, then if nobody else claims they were blocked, I'm going to be lynched. There's no win for me if I'm mafia.

Which brings me to a final point. It's funny that for all of the waiting around for Mr.P's information that you wanted to do, you've never once commented about his claim of being redirected, not even stating one way or the other if your Night One result said it was for a scan on prof. I can understand why you're trying to avoid that question. If you say for certain you scanned prof then it confirms for town that a redirector exists, and if you do that you'd have to admit that I don't even have to block FF, as mafia can use him as a second kill. You would also have to admit that I could be redirected into blocking FF, thus setting up the above scenario of getting lynched toMorrow. There goes one [flawed] point against me. Now if you say there's room for doubt as to whether you actually scanned prof, it condems Mr.P and suggests there actually is no redirector. You're in a no win position.



zero129 said:
Baalzamon said:

Did you seriously even read what I said? My issue has nothing to do with you being capable of sending night actions early. It has to do with a townie being comfortable with a night action before they even know the results of a day.

Yes, i wasnt going to be around and it was just a scan. This is nothing new for people to do ya know. I mean sure if i thought the was a chance of prof getting lynched on day 1 maybe i would of picked someone else. But the chances of prof getting lynched day 1 was pretty much zero, so i felt good with placing my scan on him.

Cant even believe your questioning that.

You say it was "just a scan" as if one of two useful abilities is inconsequential.



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theprof00 said:
Baalzamon said:
My motives are to not have this game end on a stupid lynch. Town is going to feel awfully stupid if we just settle to the Trucks lynch and it loses us the game.

Well then the choice is to either lynch trucks or axum, because they both claimed doctor.

Unless you have a reason to avoid lynching Trucks.

This is another reason I think it may be best to lynch zero toDay. I may be biased in thinking prof is scum with zero, but this and zero's claim that he's going to Commute toNight reeks of trying to get zero to Night for some dastardly deed.



Arminillo said:
Linkzmax Chie Satonaka - Roleblocker (P4-3) This one, I have nothing. I have no idea why she would be townroleblocker other than Clyde just wanted it to be a role.

From her wiki, I don't understand it either. Paraphrasing the ability, Cosmic Kick, reads as if it would make a lot more sense as a Day-Vig or Strongman, but I'm Roleblocker nonetheless.

Arminillo said:
Be honest guys, the only reason people wont vote trucks is because Zero claimed jackofall trades. Do you guys think he would be as stupid as to make such a ridiculous claim if lying? Or do you think Clyde gave him THAT as a safeclaim? Even if we lynched Trucks and he WAS doctor, couldnt vigilante just shoot Zero at night?

There is absolutely no good reason to not lynch Trucks.

I've been trying not to be as mean as I used to be when I played years ago, so I will try to say it as a compliment instead. I don't think anything is too ridiculous for zero to try to pull. Assuming Clyde gave safeclaims, it should have only been for names. Giving mafia roles they could claim would confirm town does not have those roles. Someone very knowledgeable with the flavor could turn the names into roles though. And as I said above, a redirector can use me to block FF or use him as a second kill if need be. I think Block trumps redirect, but that's only if I can narrow down who is the Redirector, and I don't have enough information to know that.



Final-Fan said:
Arminillo said:

I also would like to say that I believe Zero based on what I know about Persona, which, I might add are always about investigation. (there are alot of investiagative roles here in this Mafia game).

I actually disagree , despite knowing nothing about Persona.  Blade was a cop, weakened due to the miller and allegedly godfather.  Stefl was weakened by the five thousand roles that could block him.  Tracker and Watcher are both limited roles.  Where's zero's weakness?  Two shots?  Here we are almost in the endgame after two nights.  One of them being "only" as good as a regular cop?  The "cop fingers scum, commutes while mafia fruitlessly try to kill" possibility is so powerful I have a hard time believing it.

This is another thing I mentioned earlier and why I have trouble buying either Doctor claim. Even my role has a weakness in that I can block other PRs. Vig can kill a townie. DV enabler could buff mafia. Journalist could get no info at all or limited/false info from the investigators. Dreamer has vague clues and it's not certain if it's one or two of the three clues refer to town/mafia, making it very difficult to confirm anyone's alignment.



In case someone hammers Trucks "suddenly," anyone care to weigh in on who I should block or if I should block at all? I won't commit to any plan outside of not blocking FF. Nor axum unless Trucks flips as Town Doctor, in which case axum will likely taste my foot again.



Dw about the redirector, mrp is prolly just maf



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