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zero129 said:

Im town jack of all trades, my role scan on you returned Godfather. Linkz was the first one to mention about Godfather and also tried today and yesterday to steer the convo away from you.

For the rest of town the only reason im bringing this up about linkz is that you can bet your ass he will place his vote on me and try convince the rest of town to do the same.

back to 2 games ago. Only reason i thought prof was the Godfather was him saying about it. I never came on and said prof "IS" the Godfather.

I did say my scan returned as guilty to see his reaction to it nothing more. You can see blade tried the same tactic in this game by calling "Prof Guilty". Only difference is some real life issues came up and i couldnt come back on to explain that it was just a test for prof before the game was over and yes we ended up losing cos of that.

However unlike you i learned from that mistake and thats the main reason why this time i dont want to let town down.

I know i said before blades was killed that if town didnt believe me to lynch me and then on my flip lynch you+linkz the day after.

However thanks to blades death its too late for that now (Bet it was linkz who pushed for his mod kill since linkz was the first to notice the edits).

If town wants to win this game they need to lynch you. You are the Godfather.

If town lynchs anyone other then you today its over for town. Hopefully if town doesnt want to believe me they will at least believe blades last few words and lynch you.

Don't forget Day One zero! You were trying to link me to Trucks way back then as well. prof was actually pushing for Trucks lynch, and had voted for him instead of miz. Yeah sure, I'm going to believe you didn't scan your number one target and between me/prof you chose to scan the one going after said target instead of the one you accused of defending him.

I probably will vote you before this Day is through, but it's already clear I don't need to do a lot to convince others you are lying.

I believe I am to blame for Blade's modkill by noticing his edits, but I didn't ask for it nor do I regret pointing them out. Rules are rules. Nice of you to try to paint me as scummy for it though. Why no comment on FF saying it was extremely fair?

Your last bit makes no sense. If you truly believe Trucks and I are scummates, then as Blade said you should be pushing for my lynch as it's possible I have a role while Trucks is basically vanilla. Even beyond that, lynching any mafia besides Trucks would also mean it's not over for town. Your insistence that Trucks is the only option for a lynch toDay is what makes me lean towards you setting up a mislynch rather than bussing your scummate.

zero129 said:

However thanks to linkz (I think him anyways) that cant happen now since blades has been mod killed...

Blade's death has no bearing on whether or not a mislynch would have been possible. Are you playing the inability to count card?

zero129 said:

Our confirmed Cop (Even if you dont want to believe my claim) told you he had info before he died that lead him to believe trucks and linkz was mafia and that me and prof was telling the truth.

The reason he trusted prof and thus you is quite obvious. He assumed that his character being prof's character's brother meant they must both be town. That's not guarenteed, and more often than not a cop sibling is paired with a mafia sibling so mafia have a drawback for killing off the cop.

As for me, as I said it's a leap of logic to assume that doubting you makes me in cahoots with Trucks. You also can't explain why I would warn the cop against fully trusting innocent scans because a Godfather exists if I'm in fact scummates with a Godfather. That's exactly what I wouldn't want him to be thinking about if it were the case.

zero129 said:
Baalzamon said:

I'll give just 1 situation in which it isn't over. Lets assume 1 vig & 4 mafia.

There are 9 remaining players, if we mislynch, that leaves 8. A mafia kill tonight leaves 7. You then have the vig off a mafia, leaving 6. You also provide a double vote to a townie.

Town is able to lynch another mafia due to 3 votes + double vote. Go into the night with 3 town, 2 mafia. Vig/Mafia kill means we come out 2 town, 1 mafia. Town lynches final mafia & wins.

First off all how the fuck (if w have a vig) is going to hit mafia and not town? your fucking scum since you know following you would be a loss for town.

I pointed out the real issue with Baalz proposed situation. How is it from your perspective that you don't see that a vig should shoot Trucks(or me) if we instead mislynch toDay?

Finally, as for your latest post. Nobody is claiming your role is OP. They're saying 4 confirmed informative roles, plus two more claimed ones, makes yours very unbelieveable.



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No. There's only one role that he could claim that I would be willing to trust enough to say he shouldn't be lynched ever. Though I don't expect it from him as I think someone else is it.



Linkzmax said:
Final-Fan said:
I kinda want to look back at platina's few posts now to see if there are any clues to his N1. Tonight (real world) I should be able to if no one beats me to it. Other than that, discussion is fine but we should not act before hearing Blade's dying declaration.

If you haven't yet started to look, I can assure you there's nothing to gather from his posts.

I'm warming up to the idea of a mass claim if enough think it's a good idea. I think Trucks should claim first or same-timeish with the rest of us though. 

The only reason against it is that I'm increasingly of the mind that the town's best hope may be that the extra killer is a town vig, who is helped by the silence of the remaining unknown roles.  I personally do not have an ability that would help save another player by any means. 



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No zero, I just raid Tuesday nights. I'll reply to your drivel when it's over. If you're no longer offline, you can respond when you get back. That's how it works. And since you're insinuating I'm chatting with Trucks in a quick topic, I would've had weeks to set him up with a fakeclaim. Why should I need to scramble now?



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Put your votes on a separate line and in bold, if not in this format they will not be counted.

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. 

 

Player L4 L3 L2 L1 Lynch
TruckOSaurus zero129  arminillo      
zero129 TruckOSaurus baalzamon      

 

History:

zero votes trucks
prof votes trucks
prof unvotes
arminillo votes trucks
trucks votes zero
baalz votes zero



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axumblade said:
So realistically, what are the chances of Zero being SK?

"Zero".. unless he's a Role Cop SK. He can't know Trucks is a GF otherwise, and he'll be instalynched if Trucks doesn't flip GF.



Linkzmax said:
Baalzamon said:

I'll give just 1 situation in which it isn't over. Lets assume 1 vig & 4 mafia.

There are 9 remaining players, if we mislynch, that leaves 8. A mafia kill tonight leaves 7. You then have the vig off a mafia, leaving 6. You also provide a double vote to a townie.

Town is able to lynch another mafia due to 3 votes + double vote. Go into the night with 3 town, 2 mafia. Vig/Mafia kill means we come out 2 town, 1 mafia. Town lynches final mafia & wins.

You are forgetting prof has claimed to be Blade's sibling, which Blade has now un-edited back into his post. If he's town, then it leaves 3 mafia to 2 town come morning. If he's mafia, then it's 2 mafia to 3 town and we're fine, but that assumes it's a vig rather than a SK and that they still have another shot.

Baalzamon said:
Oh, and to clarify on the whole not tattling on Trucks. Zero is 100% certain which poem relates to Trucks, and indicates it makes him the mafia from that set of poems, however, I'm interpreting the remainder of that poem to pretty clearly indicate Trucks isn't mafia.

You and your leaving out bits of the clues.

Baalzamon said:
Sorry, I misspoke. Assuming mafia have a roleblocker or busdriver or something along those lines, they can basically make your commuter role worthless. The kill wouldn't necessarily be on you.

Commuter is immune to roleblock/busdriver. Or am I not understanding your point?

That is apparently my bad for not understanding commuter. My understanding is it effectively takes whoever he targets out of the night process, but are you suggesting Zero himself cannot be roleblocked and or bus driven? I would think these can happen prior to his commuter skill going through on somebody else.

 

As for the poems, there is really only so much I can say on each one without directly quoting them, which Clyde specifically informed I cannot do. That I can't put in my own words every part of the riddle? That my friend is the downside to my role. However after everybody became super certain that one poem referred to trucks, I read it over about 20 times today and believe I have deduced one of 2 possible roles that Trucks is, and neither is remotely close to a godfather.



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Lets just believe what BladeSymphony said and kill trucks please. If maf wins, maf wins. Blade modkill and sudden double nightkill ruined us.



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Blade was a cop. If Trucks is godfather, he had nothing to prove this.



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except he scanned trucks inno and zero claimed godfather on him, yes i realize that doesn't mean much but he said he had other info that helped confirm his suspicion.

If we lynch zero, and say he is mafia, so the game isnt over, we dont have anyone hes connected to that we can suspect to be a scummate as far as i can tell. We would just be stuck. So id rather kill Trucks and either lose or have something to go on.



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