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Final-Fan on 03 January 2017

Barring certain possibilities that seem unlikely and yet ...



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Linkzmax on 03 January 2017
theprof00 said:
Ok I'm going to post what I'm thinking little by little until I get a clearer picture.
Mrp and arm visited stefl.
Blade scanned noc as miller correctly.
Mrp said he delivers flowers. Wait a second.
I didn't get any flowers.
I'll come back to that.
Blade said he believes zero is town bc nobody tried to stop him. Mrp said he targetted blade and got me instead. Which means I was either switched with blade or mrp was redirected onto me. How in the world does mrp know he visited me? When you're redirected you're not supposed to know.
Ok, moving past that. If redirected, why redirect a journalist to me, without knowing my role. If busdriven, why switch me and blade. I guess someone who thinks I'm scum could switch me and blade hoping that blade would draw a night kill.
Blade suspects zeros claim, countering that he actually scanned me scum. Then says he lied and trusts zero. Believes the poem claim.
Linkz suspects zeros claim.

I'll be back with more

The bolded is something I really wanted Blade to comment on. zero's response suggests he doesn't think he was redirected, but doesn't outright say he knows for a fact he targeted you either. I'm still not very trusting of him either.



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Linkzmax on 03 January 2017
Final-Fan said:
So, for the record, losing the siblings means that, if we assume for the sake of argument that there is a 4-man mafia team with no SK, this would more or less be LYLO instead of MYLO. An SK present would mean the game continues regardless, if I recall correctly, and at this point it's extremely safe to say that this is not a 3-mafia no-SK game.

("LY"nching correctly is the only way to avoid a "LO"ss, versus "M"isl"Y"nching will result in a "LO"ss. The difference is that mislynching plus mafia kill equals two town deaths, while (for example) not lynching anyone plus mafia kill is only one town death.)

It's worse than that. If prof is town with a 4-man mafia with no SK, then even a correct lynch is still a loss unless the Night kill gets stopped.(Or possibly if Arm DVs a townie it'd allow another chance to block the kill) If prof is mafia, which is pretty common for a sibling tied to a cop, then it's obviously a better situation but a mislynch is still a loss.

If it's 4 town vs 4 mafia vs SK right now, a town prof and mislynch equals a mafia win unless their Night kill gets stopped. Town prof and a mafia lynch requires the SK to shoot mafia for the game to continue.(2/2/1 or 3/2 at the start of Day 4) Mafia prof and a mislynch works out the same. Mafia prof and a mafia lynch means at worst we start with 2/2/1, though at best it could be 4/1 with some cross kills.



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Final-Fan on 03 January 2017

I kinda want to look back at platina's few posts now to see if there are any clues to his N1. Tonight (real world) I should be able to if no one beats me to it. Other than that, discussion is fine but we should not act before hearing Blade's dying declaration.



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TruckOSaurus on 03 January 2017

I'm back from New Year's Day shenanigans and it seems I have a lot to read and, from a quick scan of this page's posts, there seems to be some lies going around about me. Off the reading the thread.



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Arminillo on 03 January 2017

well this game is already screwed, I would like it to just end. I am confused as to why my ability was so neutered compared to what others had, but whatever. I highly doubt our current team has the ability to correctly hit mafia for the rest of the game, so I will just do Zeros suggestion and vote for who I first voted for day 1.

Vote: Trucks

I partially blame myself for not being online during Noctis' lynch as I think if I wouldve been there to defend him, given his previous animosity to me, he mightve lived.

Here is my prediction for maf for after the game ends:

Trucks
Finalfan
Axum



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TruckOSaurus on 03 January 2017
zero129 said:
BladeSymphony said:
Knowing Clyde, I somehow doubt he'd let him use the mafia chat for that, he'd tell him to go to the inbox.

And from my information, I scanned Trucks, which came back as innocent.

@zero, do you have anything to say about that one, considering you plan to 100% vote for him?

 

BladeSymphony said:
Hey, Zero and Linkz

You've been pushing hard all game yet haven't given anyone a single clue about your role.

Both of you currently are pushing for Trucks

FoS on Linkz and Zero

What are your roles?

The reason why trucks returned innocent is that he is the Godfather..

I will Role Claim now since i do have info.

My name is Maya Amano Town Jack of all trades - my skills make me quite the sleuth.
I have 3 one shot ability's.
Cop, Role Cop and commuter.
I copped Prof night 1 and he returned as innocent.
I role copped Trucks night 2 and he returned as Godfather.
I have commuter protection tonight so thats why im bringing this info now.

Vote: Trucks

Its the reason how i knew #3 on baalz poems was trucks. Its also why i said 100% he would be getting my vote today.

Don't you ever learn from your mistake? That's exactly the kind of shit you pulled against prof two games ago. You were so convinced he was scum Godfather that you made up a guilty scan on him and now just because I used you to generate discussion on Day One, you've been tunneling me for the whole duration of the game and now you've resorted to making up lies just so you can have satisfaction?

Even if your lie didn't involve me, I wouldn't believe what you have to say. We have confirmed Cop, Tracker, Watcher, Psychic and claimed Journalist and Dreamer. That's 6 informative roles and you expect me and the rest of the Town to believe that you're that you're the 7th informative role?

At this point, I'm forced to revise my belief that you're just a townie refusing to let go of a Day One vote against you because that's getting quite ridiculous. It's much more likely that you're scum making a push for the win.

Vote: zero129



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TruckOSaurus on 03 January 2017
zero129 said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Don't you ever learn from your mistake? That's exactly the kind of shit you pulled against prof two games ago. You were so convinced he was scum Godfather that you made up a guilty scan on him and now just because I used you to generate discussion on Day One, you've been tunneling me for the whole duration of the game and now you've resorted to making up lies just so you can have satisfaction?

Even if your lie didn't involve me, I wouldn't believe what you have to say. We have confirmed Cop, Tracker, Watcher, Psychic and claimed Journalist and Dreamer. That's 6 informative roles and you expect me and the rest of the Town to believe that you're that you're the 7th informative role?

At this point, I'm forced to revise my belief that you're just a townie refusing to let go of a Day One vote against you because that's getting quite ridiculous. It's much more likely that you're scum making a push for the win.

Vote: zero129

You have been online lots of times, you could of commented at any point. Yet you wait till now.

Its kinda funny that the tactic your using to brush off me scanning you as the Godfather is the exact same thing you tried doing 2 games ago when i also scanned you as scum. You even returned the vote the exact same way with the silly excuse that my scan is false.

This is facts.

Im town jack of all trades, my role scan on you returned Godfather. Linkz was the first one to mention about Godfather and also tried today and yesterday to steer the convo away from you.

For the rest of town the only reason im bringing this up about linkz is that you can bet your ass he will place his vote on me and try convince the rest of town to do the same.

back to 2 games ago. Only reason i thought prof was the Godfather was him saying about it. I never came on and said prof "IS" the Godfather.

I did say my scan returned as guilty to see his reaction to it nothing more. You can see blade tried the same tactic in this game by calling "Prof Guilty". Only difference is some real life issues came up and i couldnt come back on to explain that it was just a test for prof before the game was over and yes we ended up losing cos of that.

However unlike you i learned from that mistake and thats the main reason why this time i dont want to let town down.

I know i said before blades was killed that if town didnt believe me to lynch me and then on my flip lynch you+linkz the day after.

However thanks to blades death its too late for that now (Bet it was linkz who pushed for his mod kill since linkz was the first to notice the edits).

If town wants to win this game they need to lynch you. You are the Godfather.

If town lynchs anyone other then you today its over for town. Hopefully if town doesnt want to believe me they will at least believe blades last few words and lynch you.

So you lie again to try to make me look bad. I logged in in the morning on January 1st, saw about 20 posts, Mr. P and Blade were still holding on the their info so I didn't comment. After that, I didn't log in until this morning when I posted my first message.

Your role is made up, you're not a Jack-of-Trades, you're either incredibly stubborn town zero who once again resorts to fabrications to get what he wants or scum zero who uses how stupidly stubborn you usually are as a cover for his scummy ways. I'm leaning towards the latter.



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Baalzamon on 03 January 2017

We don't have a time limit do we? I'm currently at work, and have trivia tonight. Just want to make sure it won't be too late if I wait until after then to analyze all the claims.



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Baalzamon on 03 January 2017

I will say, I'm with those who aren't buying the jack of all trades claim. It doesn't seem to fit in with the roles we already have confirmed.

Need to see if there have been any slips regarding this along the way.



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