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DonFerrari said:
soulripper31 said:

Please point me to one post that asks for FF XV to be on the Wii U.

 

Because 0,6TF of switch will certainly be enough for next final fantasy right? putting ff XVI will be no different than to put ff XV on WiiU. but certainly the Best way is to attack others like burninmylight is doing. 

First of all, you don't know the specs of the Nintendo Switch. Second of all, you don't need powerful hardware to make great games. I've already mentioned it before but Pokémon Red and Blue are much more iconic games than Final Fantasy VII. How long has FF XV been in development again? Was it worth all that time waiting?

But I guess some people prefer fancy graphics over actual gameplay. Never the less, Final Fantasy is on the decline and it will continue to decline if they keep prioritizing graphics over gameplay.

And making games for a platform isn't only a question about how powerful it is, but how much it will sell. Are you saying the Switch will sell as poorly as the Wii U? Otherwise your comparison makes little sense.



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DonFerrari said:
soulripper31 said:

Please point me to one post that asks for FF XV to be on the Wii U.

 

Because 0,6TF of switch will certainly be enough for next final fantasy right? putting ff XVI will be no different than to put ff XV on WiiU. but certainly the Best way is to attack others like burninmylight is doing. 

Hey old chum, I learned it from the best somebody (you). But who is attacking who? All soulripper31 did was ask you to show him who is portbegging for the Wii U (a nice way of saying, "Please stop strawmanning me").

All I did was point out that people of your position keep bringing up entirely different consoles when the rest of us are talking about a specific one, as if the N64 in America was called Gamecube in Europe, or the Switch is keeping the name Wii U outside of Japan. Does that make you feel attacked? Feel free to report me then.



Intrinsic said:
burninmylight said:
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Ok this is going nowhere. You aremt trying to undertsjd the points I'm making but instead reading everything with an intention to dispute and argue. I never said Nintendo games can't handle voice acting. Thw whole point of everything that I'm saying is that games are built to take advantage of the hardware they are built on and around the limitations of said hardware.

And to point out that considering the hardware Nintendo usually puts out, games have to be built a certain way, and you can't just take games built to the specs of say a PS4 or Scorpio and port that I've the say a switch for a multitufe of reasons. Same applies to PS3/360 to the Wii. Same applies to PS2 to the GC.

But let's leave it as is and agree to disagree. 

It's going nowhere because every one of your replies to me thus far strongly implied NIntendo games can't handle voice acting, but as soon as I pointed out a game that is 33 percent voice acting, now you're saying that you're not saying Nintendo games can't handle voice acting.

It's going nowhere just because I said that I'm not a technical wizard when it comes to knowing the ins and outs of console development, you thought you could have me believing that Sony consoles are some magical, state-of-the-art machines that ooze brilliance out of every opening that Nintendo could never hope to match, not out of design choice, but out of pure, utter impotence on the part of the engineers, even though the Gamecube (and Xbox) was in every way the superior console to the PS2 sans disc space on a technical level.

It's going nowhere because I said the PS2 FF games could have worked on the GCN, and you talk about the N64.

It's going nowhere because you were locked on the rumors of the Switch's standard card size and how no PS4 games could possibly fit on it, but I pointed out how a PS4 game that is clearly larger than the Switch's rumored standard card size is rumored to be coming to the Switch.

It's going nowhere because you can't accept any of these things, and would rather "agree to disagree" rather than agree that you might not have been exactly right about some things, that you might not have all the answers, and that the Switch might very well be more capable than you think or want to admit, and that one of your previous series so strongly associated with Sony could and should probably be entirely possible on it. But because I won't blindly accept your unfounded points, that means I somehow don't understand.

So yeah, it's going nowhere. Exactly as I knew it would, because like I said, every conversation with you goes the same predictable route. So you go ahead and go right on stuck in your ways, taking your little potshots at Nintendo, pretending to be so misunderstood when someone doesn't buy into your propagandic BS, and selectively choosing what you do and don't want to believe. And we'll do this again in another year or so. Maybe then we'll get somewhere.



Swordmasterman said:
burninmylight said:

It's the strawman that everybody who doesn't agree with the OP runs back to. It's like their security blanket or something.

Look at Intrisic's latest reply to me. I said the PS2 Final Fantasy games would have worked on Gamecube just fine, and what does he do? Talk about how FF7 would have never worked on N64.

They had exclusivity deals with Sony, and the Gamecube was 5 millions against 20-22 millions on Japan.  20 Millions against 100+ millions worldwide.

"Even the Lowest Final Fantasy Main game after the Nintendo Era, sold more than 1.5 Millions in the First Week, so No Way a Huge System Seller on Japan will lose for a Game that "Exceed Expactations" this is not Enought, and you are Saying like the Generation is Over, when still not released games like Street Fighter, Tekken, the new Main game of Dragon Quest, Persona, Resident Evil,  and a lot of Other games that will Potentially sell well on Japan, and Hight Anticipated ones like Shenmue 3, Final Fantasy 7 Remake, i think that even Dissidia Final Fantasy, broke the 1 Million Mark last time (Only on Japan).

Final Fantasy, is one of the Biggest Franchises in Japan, and the Day that it Fall, the Entire Home Console Market on Japan, Will Fall together."

 

This is what you said in Splatoon vs FFXV sales thread. I hope 2 million customers who bought FFXV in Japan enjoy it LOL. And also, Street Fighter V, not even sold out it first shippment which is 2 mil yet. The last NPD thread SFV only sold 100.000 LOL



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burninmylight said:
Intrinsic said:

Ok this is going nowhere. You aremt trying to undertsjd the points I'm making but instead reading everything with an intention to dispute and argue. I never said Nintendo games can't handle voice acting. Thw whole point of everything that I'm saying is that games are built to take advantage of the hardware they are built on and around the limitations of said hardware.

And to point out that considering the hardware Nintendo usually puts out, games have to be built a certain way, and you can't just take games built to the specs of say a PS4 or Scorpio and port that I've the say a switch for a multitufe of reasons. Same applies to PS3/360 to the Wii. Same applies to PS2 to the GC.

But let's leave it as is and agree to disagree. 

It's going nowhere because every one of your replies to me thus far strongly implied NIntendo games can't handle voice acting, but as soon as I pointed out a game that is 33 percent voice acting, now you're saying that you're not saying Nintendo games can't handle voice acting.

It's going nowhere just because I said that I'm not a technical wizard when it comes to knowing the ins and outs of console development, you thought you could have me believing that Sony consoles are some magical, state-of-the-art machines that ooze brilliance out of every opening that Nintendo could never hope to match, not out of design choice, but out of pure, utter impotence on the part of the engineers, even though the Gamecube (and Xbox) was in every way the superior console to the PS2 sans disc space on a technical level.

It's going nowhere because I said the PS2 FF games could have worked on the GCN, and you talk about the N64.

It's going nowhere because you were locked on the rumors of the Switch's standard card size and how no PS4 games could possibly fit on it, but I pointed out how a PS4 game that is clearly larger than the Switch's rumored standard card size is rumored to be coming to the Switch.

It's going nowhere because you can't accept any of these things, and would rather "agree to disagree" rather than agree that you might not have been exactly right about some things, that you might not have all the answers, and that the Switch might very well be more capable than you think or want to admit, and that one of your previous series so strongly associated with Sony could and should probably be entirely possible on it. But because I won't blindly accept your unfounded points, that means I somehow don't understand.

So yeah, it's going nowhere. Exactly as I knew it would, because like I said, every conversation with you goes the same predictable route. So you go ahead and go right on stuck in your ways, taking your little potshots at Nintendo, pretending to be so misunderstood when someone doesn't buy into your propagandic BS, and selectively choosing what you do and don't want to believe. And we'll do this again in another year or so. Maybe then we'll get somewhere.

WTF? are we still talking about consoles amd FF here?

Damn thats deep.

I could actually refure eveeything you have said, but im gonna drop this. This has gonw to where it deosnt need to go. 



Intrinsic said:
burninmylight said:

It's going nowhere because every one of your replies to me thus far strongly implied NIntendo games can't handle voice acting, but as soon as I pointed out a game that is 33 percent voice acting, now you're saying that you're not saying Nintendo games can't handle voice acting.

It's going nowhere just because I said that I'm not a technical wizard when it comes to knowing the ins and outs of console development, you thought you could have me believing that Sony consoles are some magical, state-of-the-art machines that ooze brilliance out of every opening that Nintendo could never hope to match, not out of design choice, but out of pure, utter impotence on the part of the engineers, even though the Gamecube (and Xbox) was in every way the superior console to the PS2 sans disc space on a technical level.

It's going nowhere because I said the PS2 FF games could have worked on the GCN, and you talk about the N64.

It's going nowhere because you were locked on the rumors of the Switch's standard card size and how no PS4 games could possibly fit on it, but I pointed out how a PS4 game that is clearly larger than the Switch's rumored standard card size is rumored to be coming to the Switch.

It's going nowhere because you can't accept any of these things, and would rather "agree to disagree" rather than agree that you might not have been exactly right about some things, that you might not have all the answers, and that the Switch might very well be more capable than you think or want to admit, and that one of your previous series so strongly associated with Sony could and should probably be entirely possible on it. But because I won't blindly accept your unfounded points, that means I somehow don't understand.

So yeah, it's going nowhere. Exactly as I knew it would, because like I said, every conversation with you goes the same predictable route. So you go ahead and go right on stuck in your ways, taking your little potshots at Nintendo, pretending to be so misunderstood when someone doesn't buy into your propagandic BS, and selectively choosing what you do and don't want to believe. And we'll do this again in another year or so. Maybe then we'll get somewhere.

WTF? are we still talking about consoles amd FF here?

Damn thats deep.

I could actually refure eveeything you have said, but im gonna drop this. This has gonw to where it deosnt need to go. 

Of course you could've. Glad to know you're so above it all now...



burninmylight said:
Intrinsic said:

WTF? are we still talking about consoles amd FF here?

Damn thats deep.

I could actually refure eveeything you have said, but im gonna drop this. This has gonw to where it deosnt need to go. 

Of course you could've. Glad to know you're so above it all now...

i was above it when i said we should agree to disgree and pointed out that this talk isnt going anywhere. But my saying that apparently struck a nerve with you and led you to Say some strange things. Now? I'm just curious and amazed. 



burninmylight said:

Of course you could've. Glad to know you're so above it all now...

 

Intrinsic said:

i was above it when i said we should agree to disgree and pointed out that this talk isnt going anywhere. But my saying that apparently struck a nerve with you and led you to Say some strange things. Now? I'm just curious and amazed. 

Both of you, either drop it or take it to PM. You can debate the point all you like, but this back-and-forth is off-topic at this point. Leave it alone if the conversation isn't going anywhere.



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Super_Boom said:
burninmylight said:

Of course you could've. Glad to know you're so above it all now...

 

Intrinsic said:

i was above it when i said we should agree to disgree and pointed out that this talk isnt going anywhere. But my saying that apparently struck a nerve with you and led you to Say some strange things. Now? I'm just curious and amazed. 

Both of you, either drop it or take it to PM. You can debate the point all you like, but this back-and-forth is off-topic at this point. Leave it alone if the conversation isn't going anywhere.

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