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Dno said:
Final-Fan said:
I believe he meant if Sony exclusives are going to go multiplat it might as well be to Nintendo. It's flattering but there IS that little technological gap. The consensus seems to be that the only thing the 360 is truly outclassed in vs. the PS3 is TEH CELL's uber graphics.

Lol if graphics was the only thing that sold a console then ps3 would be killing.



Except that the 360 has the best looking/running games right now. The PS3 doesn't have anything that makes people say, "ah, so the PS3 is more powerful and this game shows it." Mostly, it has dual-developed games that are, by and large, inferior to the Xbox 360 version in most ways.

The reality is that the PS3 and 360 are basically on even ground from a performance perspective.

MGS 4 virtually assured success, and a lot of it.  This won't make companies feel secure releasing PS3 exclusives, of course, since there is plenty of money on the table if they have a good game and they port it to the 360 also.  The big advantage of the 360 instead of the Wii is that the 360 has the same amount of memory and generally a little more CPU time and fill rate than the PS3, so porting PS3 -> 360 is easy. 



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TheBigFatJ said:
Dno said:
Final-Fan said:
I believe he meant if Sony exclusives are going to go multiplat it might as well be to Nintendo. It's flattering but there IS that little technological gap. The consensus seems to be that the only thing the 360 is truly outclassed in vs. the PS3 is TEH CELL's uber graphics.

Lol if graphics was the only thing that sold a console then ps3 would be killing.



Except that the 360 has the best looking/running games right now. The PS3 doesn't have anything that makes people say, "ah, so the PS3 is more powerful and this game shows it." Mostly, it has dual-developed games that are, by and large, inferior to the Xbox 360 version in most ways.

The reality is that the PS3 and 360 are basically on even ground from a performance perspective.

MGS 4 virtually assured success, and a lot of it.  This won't make companies feel secure releasing PS3 exclusives, of course, since there is plenty of money on the table if they have a good game and they port it to the 360 also.  The big advantage of the 360 instead of the Wii is that the 360 has the same amount of memory and generally a little more CPU time and fill rate than the PS3, so porting PS3 -> 360 is easy. 


EPIC fail.

burnout, GTA4, COD4 to name a few.

uncharted looks better then anygame on 360 and killzone kills halo3 is graphics. GT5 KILLs forza in every way possible and has more shit in it.

and are u a dev? because real devs say all the time that the ps3 is stronger...this is a fact... i hate when people argue the facts. In fact a couple of devs said that 360 is maxed out whereas ps3 is not.

I dont feel like finding a link but i will if u want me to.. i am at work....



Maybe third party companies would have huge sales if they put some fricking effort into their titles...

YES YOU konami for your goddamn Pro evo 2008 screw up



I hope my 360 doesn't RRoD
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FF will never appear on xbox again. because FF is HUGE in JAPAN and xbox is NOT.
MGS4 is definetly the last MGS. MGS2: substance did appear on Xbox (BECAUSE MS INFAMOUSLY ENCOURAGED EVERY DEVELOPER TO PORT THEIR GAMES TO XBOX AND RESULTED HUGE FINANCIAL BURNS). MGS3 only appeared on PS2. 360 can't handle MGS4 just like PS2 couldn't handle Ninja Gaiden.
GTAV...well R* didn't take advantage of blu-ray because of the deal with MS so it's possible that the next GTA might be PS3 exclusive (hey, you said best Technology. Larger storage, HDDs in all units)



you no what..lol i found it lol.

Transcript of Segment in Interview
Major: Looking back on all the work you've done in the industry, are you surprised at where you are today in terms of technology or do you see alot of power in the box to be unlocked - specifically for the Xbox 360..

Developer: I think we've really pushed where we can go graphically, I think realism is losing some of the luster - I would love to see some work done on what we call "non-photo realistic rendering", paint-related techniques, we do things you can do in movies but I'm more interested in what you can't do in movies...

Major: Interesting..

Developer. I thought it was sad that we had to let the Matrix to show how fun Bullet-Time could be, we (developers) have control of the camera, we have control of the content, we're not limited by lenses etc, we (the industry) can do alot more things to draw the players attention to tell a story that haven't been discovered by movie camera's.

Major: Interesting, I never really thought of it like that. Why keep pushing the photo-realism that you could do more things to make the gameplay more effective.

Developer: Right. And I think the bar could be alot higher with animation and A.I, the things really cue into when interacting with an environment to make it more believable, to just make the characters - the scenes, we interact with more fun. We're seeing really good physics now, we all know how much fun it is to drive and smash cars in BURNOUT and do alot of things to make it more fun with the physics..etc



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Dno said:
Final-Fan said:
I believe he meant if Sony exclusives are going to go multiplat it might as well be to Nintendo. It's flattering but there IS that little technological gap. The consensus seems to be that the only thing the 360 is truly outclassed in vs. the PS3 is TEH CELL's uber graphics.

Lol if graphics was the only thing that sold a console then ps3 would be killing.

People want to make money? in The US, "others" or japan you gonna make it on the number one console and thats the wii. Sega is doing it with sonic, EA been doing it from the start with like 20 titles so far, Can anyone say Spider-man 3?

Muti-platform is muti-platform..... The graphical difference means nuthin when the wii version has the potential to sell millions more then 360 AND way more millions then ps3.

SO like i was saying to Rocket.... all those games besides GT will pick wii before 360. thats just not smart to make jp games on a system that does horrible in jp and is in 3rd in others and soon to be second in US.

Face it xbox fanboys all those exculsive games are gone and wont come back intill microsoft kills 360 and rushes another RROD system to the market.

You're dangerously close to trolling. Watch yourself. 

 




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Dno said:
As long as im not wrong im good. i said nuthin that is not true... so close but not really

If all you're going to do is trash the Xbox, feel free to leave the Microsoft forum. We were having an intelligent discussion about this until you arrived.

Stop thread-crapping and pushing your pro-PS3 agenda in the MS forum.




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Dno said:

EPIC fail.

burnout, GTA4, COD4 to name a few.

GTA 4?  That's the game in lower resolution on the PS3, right?  It's HD on the 360, but not HD on the PS3.

CoD 4 looks very similar on both systems.  I didn't notice much of a difference myself, except that they both looked like shit compared to the PC version.  I don't know about Burnout, but if you look at Madden 08 it's very obvious that the 360 version looks and plays better.  Same with

I'm not a dev, not for high end games anyhow, but I do understand the architecture of the Cell (I developed a pipelined processor while earning my computer science degree) and I understand game engines (developed one of those, too).  You can find plenty of devs who will say, "the PS3 is more powerful" or "the 360 is more powerful."   The only real area of contention is the Cell and Xenon, as its accepted (and simply a fact) that the 360 has more fill rate and they have about the same amount of memory (small advantage to the 360 here).

And Cell vs Xenon is not a simple discussion because they cannot be directly compared.  The ultimate answer is that the Cell is very fast for some things, but not others, whereas the Xenon is quite fast for most things.  Again, compared to modern processors they're both fairly slow, but not nearly as slow as the GPUs in each of those systems. 

They're both video game toys, sure.  Neither is a super powerful system -- we're already 3 years into the "Next generation" of games, and already PCs can mop the floor with either of the systems handily and they're struggling to live up to the promise of HD gaming.  But, whatever, take offense that I suggested the 360 toy is about equivalent with the PS3 toy, except for some minor differences. 



rocketpig said:
Dno said:
As long as im not wrong im good. i said nuthin that is not true... so close but not really

If all you're going to do is trash the Xbox, feel free to leave the Microsoft forum. We were having an intelligent discussion about this until you arrived.

Stop thread-crapping and pushing your pro-PS3 agenda in the MS forum.


I did not push any ps3 agenda.. for u info i love my 360 and i owned every microsoft gaming system and zune. The guy said the 360 is stronger and thats just not true.

You said devs should go to 360 for money... and since wii has sold 10 million more then 360 thats also not true.