Ruler said:
Why shouldnt it be? |
because we have the official specs of the console? I really wanna understand but you need to more clear. here, this $1,000 pc destroys the ps4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883221298&cm_re=1070_gtx_pc-_-83-221-298-_-Product
are you trying to say that a ps4 pro is a great console for the price? yeah I agree, are you trying to say that a ps4 pro has the components or it's as good as a $1,000 pc, that's not an opinion, that's just wrong.
Ps4 pro is a beast!
onionberry said:
because we have the official specs of the console? I really wanna understand but you need to more clear. here, this $1,000 pc destroys the ps4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883221298&cm_re=1070_gtx_pc-_-83-221-298-_-Product are you trying to say that a ps4 pro is a great console for the price? yeah I agree, are you trying to say that a ps4 pro has the components or it's as good as a $1,000 pc, that's not an opinion, that's just wrong. |
youre showing a US Only black friday offer, thats a $1300 PC
Ruler said:
This video realy doesnt go into detail at which settings the console versions are really running. It only counts view aspects like shadow quality popping up. PC version looks really identical with the PS4 Pro version to me and we know some details got imrpoved on PS4 Pro. The general rule is that most console games run at high PC settings i would say. |
Doesn't matter what it looks like to you... You aren't the one doing the analysis. The dude that did the analysis says that those two settings really hit the performance hard which is why the console versions are at medium settings.
And the rule is very game dependent but lets say that Hitman is running at high settings, PC will still run higher at Ultra and perform better even with an i5 + 1060. And that is for the poorly optimized games. For the devs that do a decent job, a PC with an i3 + 1060 should run better than the ps4 pro in most cases such as with Rise of Tomb Raider which DF themselves claim it is one of the best optimized games for the ps4 pro
One way or the other, it should not cost $1000 PC to match the visual quality and performance of a ps4 Pro unless it is a horribly optimized PC game...
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Captain_Yuri said:
Doesn't matter what it looks like to you... You aren't the one doing the analysis. The dude that did the analysis says that those two settings really hit the performance hard which is why the console versions are at medium settings. And the rule is very game dependent but lets say that Hitman is running at high settings, PC will still run higher at Ultra and perform better even with an i5 + 1060. And that is for the poorly optimized games. For the devs that do a decent job, a PC with an i3 + 1060 should run better than the ps4 pro in most cases such as with Rise of Tomb Raider which DF themselves claim it is one of the best optimized games for the ps4 pro One way or the other, it should not cost $1000 PC to match the visual quality and performance of a ps4 Pro unless it is a horribly optimized PC game... |
CPU is important to get a higher framrate, a Corei5 or Corei3 with a GTX1060 will run worse than the Pro
| onionberry said: because we have the official specs of the console? I really wanna understand but you need to more clear. here, this $1,000 pc destroys the ps4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883221298&cm_re=1070_gtx_pc-_-83-221-298-_-Product are you trying to say that a ps4 pro is a great console for the price? yeah I agree, are you trying to say that a ps4 pro has the components or it's as good as a $1,000 pc, that's not an opinion, that's just wrong. |
That is his entire point though. If you've been watching him over the years, you'll see that he tries coming up with threads comparing PC to consoles, but making it out like no matter what the PC build does, it's utrrerly useless. Like how we're not seeing him compare a PS4P vs a 1k build and each angle that has a weakness is simply tossed right back at that 1k PC build.
There will likely be another thread from him in the future based on how PC will be crap versus PS4P or how higher end costs or builds don't matter because cheap price point>everything kind of logic.
Also Yuri's vid and post points out more than what OP was letting on as well if we're to go by that.
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Ruler said:
youre showing a US Only black friday offer, thats a $1300 PC |
The thing is that you can build that pc with less money, with $800 to be exact. Anyway, most powerful console?,yeah, a high end pc? no way.
comparing to a PC running a budget graphics card isn't going to win you friends.
Ruler said:
CPU is important to get a higher framrate, a Corei5 or Corei3 with a GTX1060 will runs worse than the Pro |
No it doesn't... Nor do you know what you are talking about.
Framerate is dependent on where the bottleneck is coming from. In hitman's case, CPU was not the bottleneck from the video you showed, it was the GPU. i3 with hitman will run worse sure, but not an i5
Rise of Tomb Raider for example:
On the Ps4 Pro, it struggles to hit 60 fps on high framerate mode which uses base ps4's setting
Like I said, very game dependent...
PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850
Chazore said:
That is his entire point though. If you've been watching him over the years, you'll see that he tries coming up with threads comparing PC to consoles, but making it out like no matter what the PC build does, it's utrrerly useless. Like how we're not seeing him compare a PS4P vs a 1k build and each angle that has a weakness is simply tossed right back at that 1k PC build. There will likely be another thread from him in the future based on how PC will be crap versus PS4P or how higher end costs or builds don't matter because cheap price point>everything kind of logic. Also Yuri's vid and post points out more than what OP was letting on as well if we're to go by that. |
i am not trying to trash PCs i just want to point our that the PS4 Pro is a good deal for the Hardware you get thats i always have to compare the two. A lot of people think that consoles arent as good in performance/pric ratio like they used to be. But with the PS4 Pro its going back to that direction we had in pervious generations.
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