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Forums - Gaming - Scorpio wont do native 4K in most AAA games, its basic math

Kerotan said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Whatever you need to tell yourself to explain your dramatic replies, whatever. There was absolutely nothing in my post indicating Playstation is doomed :)

And ahahaha @ that bullshit at the end of that post. 4k was literally the first thing they mentioned when talking PS4 Pro. And I don't remember them saying native 4k is indie/remaster only.

Spoiler alert : 

If they genuinely wanted AAA native 4k they've have released an $800 console. whoever takes pr as Gospel?  

 

And I find it ironic you calling my post dramatic after reading that reply. 

Nothing ironic about it. When I start twisting your words to reach dramatic conclusions, come talk to me :)

ahahaha @ a live presentation being PR. Stahp, you're better than this.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
Kerotan said:

Spoiler alert : 

If they genuinely wanted AAA native 4k they've have released an $800 console. whoever takes pr as Gospel?  

 

And I find it ironic you calling my post dramatic after reading that reply. 

Nothing ironic about it. When I start twisting your words to reach dramatic conclusions, come talk to me :)

ahahaha @ a live presentation being PR. Stahp, you're better than this.

Oh man it just gets more dramatic by the reply!!  

 

Live presentation which discusses upscaled 4k techniques like checkerboarding.  it's quite clear from the off this was never meant to be a AAA 4k native console. 



Is the implied linear correlation even true?



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Hynad said:
Your math is rather clueless. Things don't scale linearly like that. And yes, Scorpio will have plenty of games in native 4K. PS4 already have native 4K games, like Skyrim and TLOUR, so there is no doubt there will be many on Scorpio.

But the question is: Why do you care if it ends up with games running in native 4K or not? You don't play on XBox consoles, we all know that.

So it seems like you're only doing wishful thinking.

i care about the bias. Everyone bashes the PS4 Pro for not doing native 4K in every game, will the same people bash MS if their games run at higher resolution but still wont hit 4K? 

Yes there will be 4K games just like the PS4 Pro has 4K games. But will every AAA games run in native 4K?



Conina said:
Ruler said:

most AAA games run in 900p upscalled to 1080p on Xbox it will be same situation for scorpio in relation to 4K

http://n4g.com/news/1781547/dismantling-the-myth-of-900p-on-xbox-one-70-of-the-games-run-at-1080p#c-10677279

And I don't even care about the Scorpio since I have a goofd gaming PC + a PS4 Pro.

But when you are using math as proof that "Scorpio won't do native 4K in AAA games" I have to tell you that the basis of your calculations is very weak.

those 70% are mostly indies, sports games etc. The real heavy performance games like Batman, Starwars, Battlefield etc. all run in 900p



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Ruler said:
Hynad said:
Your math is rather clueless. Things don't scale linearly like that. And yes, Scorpio will have plenty of games in native 4K. PS4 already have native 4K games, like Skyrim and TLOUR, so there is no doubt there will be many on Scorpio.

But the question is: Why do you care if it ends up with games running in native 4K or not? You don't play on XBox consoles, we all know that.

So it seems like you're only doing wishful thinking.

i care about the bias. Everyone bashes the PS4 Pro for not doing native 4K in every game, will the same people bash MS if their games run at higher resolution but still wont hit 4K? 

Yes there will be 4K games just like the PS4 Pro has 4K games. But will every AAA games run in native 4K?

No, not all games will run in native 4K. And neither Microsoft nor their fans ever claimed that.

And I only see the same regular bad faith driven ones downplaying the PS4 Pro. I could name most of them, but they already know who they are. 



Hynad said:
Ruler said:

i care about the bias. Everyone bashes the PS4 Pro for not doing native 4K in every game, will the same people bash MS if their games run at higher resolution but still wont hit 4K? 

Yes there will be 4K games just like the PS4 Pro has 4K games. But will every AAA games run in native 4K?

No, not all games will run in native 4K. And Microsoft, or their fans, never once claimed that either.

thats 100% not the case

 

and MS isnt better



Ruler said:
Hynad said:

No, not all games will run in native 4K. And Microsoft, or their fans, never once claimed that either.

thats 100% not the case

 

and MS is fuelling more oil into the fire

Even if they're full of crap with their "first and only", you give this way too much attention than is deserved, considering you don't plan on gaming on that console. You have nothing to gain here.  You act the same way as those you condemn. You're downplaying this system despite having next to no information about it, just like those annoying ones downplay anything PS related every chance they get. 


Fight fire with fire, right? That can only make the fire bigger. 



Hynad said:
Ruler said:

thats 100% not the case

 

and MS is fuelling more oil into the fire

Even if they're full of crap with their "first and only", you give this way too much attention than is deserved, considering you don't plan on gaming on that console. You have nothing to gain here.  You act the same way as those you condemn. You're downplaying this system despite having next to no information about it, just like those annoying ones downplay anything PS related every chance they get. 


Fight fire with fire, right? That can only make the fire bigger. 

if i make statements i give numbers and analyses to back them up, yes it effects my platform if people make a smear campaign against it like they did with the PS3.



Fei-Hung said:
It would be so funny if Sony released an advert where the narrator says, "really really true 4K."

They nicked the, "most powerful console" line with the Pro advert, so they can certainly do it again lol

Well, as a fact, PS4 is the most powerfull console on the market right now and will be for next 12 months.