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Snoopy said:
Goatseye said:

And with tech expertise to manufacture American designed products at a cheap price.

Mexico (they are building some of our cars), India, Indonesia,Philippines,ect.

Mexico is a no-go thanks to Trump, but atl east the Philippines is good since he's in bed with that nation of psychopaths.



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fatslob-:O said:
The myths that the OP spouts ...

"And China also holds a huge amount of US debt, if they called that in, the US would be in massive trouble.", this is wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to begin ...

China only holds around 7% of all US debts and there's a reason why treasury bonds have "maturity dates" so it doesn't work like that FYI ...

"China is not only far bigger economically, they are bigger militarily too", LOL wut ?

China doesn't even yet compare to the United States if we're talking about true purchasing power based around the current benchmark. As far as China having a bigger military, maybe manpower wise but asset wise it's not even close since they only own like 1 aircraft carrier ...

In their 1 aircraft carrier isn't even as good as ours lol.



fatslob-:O said:
The myths that the OP spouts ...

"And China also holds a huge amount of US debt, if they called that in, the US would be in massive trouble.", this is wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to begin ...

China only holds around 7% of all US debts and there's a reason why treasury bonds have "maturity dates" so it doesn't work like that FYI ...

"China is not only far bigger economically, they are bigger militarily too", LOL wut ?

China doesn't even yet compare to the United States if we're talking about true purchasing power based around the current benchmark. As far as China having a bigger military, maybe manpower wise but asset wise it's not even close since they only own like 1 aircraft carrier ...

I meant China is bigger than Russia militarily and economically. If we are effectively "trading" a bad relationship with Russia for a bad relationship with China, that is a very (very) bad trade. 

A tariff war will throw the global economy into a recession that would make 2008 look like child's play, that was just a mortgage crisis for a small segment of the population. This would be the entire economic engine of the world thrown into chaos. 

The Chinese are vindictive too, if the US thinks Russia gave them headaches in Syria, China would interfere and frustrate the US behind the scenes all the time. Whatever enemy we have I would bet they would start financing them with big money, even ISIS, just to make life miserable for everyone else. 



Snoopy said:

United States right now controls the economy. They can turn a nation of riches to a third world country in a heart beat. 

Wow... You really have a bad opinion of other countries, and seem to think that the world revolve around the US. That you are almighty and can decide other countries fate anytime you want. Newsflash: you can't. US aren't the world leaders anymore (no one is), the world is a lot more complex than the Hollywood movies want you to believe. I'm pretty sure the last 15 years are a good enough proof of that. Not everyone depends on the US. The US themselves depend on a lot of people. Almost everyone is connected and work together one way or another. Europe gave sanctions to Russia, and for example our agriculture is dying because of it (because obviously, Russia put some embargos too), and our own farmers are asking for the end of the sanctions against Russia in order to survive. Will they be saved by the US? Of course not, and nobody cares about the US in this case. A lot of european countries are also against the TAFTA (France included), which is pretty strange if you're right about the US controlling our economy...

 

Well, anyway, this conversation is going nowhere. You have the right to continue your "USA ! USA ! USA !" comments as long as you want, but you'll be surprised at the end of Trump's term to see how your country's power is really far from what he believes (and you too apparently). He already backed down about putting Hillary in prison, about Obamacare and about the wall with Mexico. 2 more months to go, how much of his program will be in the trashcan when he'll seat down in the Oval Office?



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Soundwave said:

I meant China is bigger than Russia militarily and economically. If we are effectively "trading" a bad relationship with Russia for a bad relationship with China, that is a very (very) bad trade. 

A tariff war will throw the global economy into a recession that would make 2008 look like child's play, that was just a mortgage crisis for a small segment of the population. This would be the entire economic engine of the world thrown into chaos. 

The Chinese are vindictive too, if the US thinks Russia gave them headaches in Syria, China would interfere and frustrate the US behind the scenes all the time. Whatever enemy we have I would bet they would start financing them with big money, even ISIS, just to make life miserable for everyone else. 

Trade how specifically when you can potentially maintain both relationships ? Trump didn't bargain for Russia's relationship with China's relationship ... 

He traded China's relationship to reduce the trading deficit if you couldn't see that. (China only likes us if they can get us into debt until we can't pay it back anymore. Trump isn't exactly the only world leader with nutty ass dreams when China wants every nation but themselves to be debtors and wants world conquest.) 

People also need to stop making f*cking doomsday predictions about how Trump's policies effect the world markets too like their experts since economics is nothing else other than pseudoscience because there's absolutely no way to verify whether a theory is valid or not ... 

If the chinese are vindictive, it's because their going to be butthurt about how Trump took away their only best weapon left which is debt ... 

Seriously, I'm surprised how Greece didn't make a deal to sell their bankrupt country to China so they could get richer and out of debt too but then again making a deal with China is like a faustian bargain LOL ... 



This would kill the gaming industry, prices would go through the roof



Rab said:
This would kill the gaming industry, prices would go through the roof

And it'd be Trump's fault.



fatslob-:O said:
The myths that the OP spouts ...

"And China also holds a huge amount of US debt, if they called that in, the US would be in massive trouble.", this is wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to begin ...

China only holds around 7% of all US debts and there's a reason why treasury bonds have "maturity dates" so it doesn't work like that FYI ...

"China is not only far bigger economically, they are bigger militarily too", LOL wut ?

China doesn't even yet compare to the United States if we're talking about true purchasing power based around the current benchmark. As far as China having a bigger military, maybe manpower wise but asset wise it's not even close since they only own like 1 aircraft carrier ...

I think that he was comparing China and Russia's military.



Faelco said:
lionpetercarmoo said:

Oh I'm sorry I didn't know you were an Army general and knew USA and China's plans on when and how to attack.

At least I've got a geopolotics and defense training thanks to my country's Ministry of Defense, including the nuclear dissuasion, so I'm more or less able to say that nobody wants a nuclear war...

We can only guess things, as always, and it can be wrong later. But if you're able to explain to me how and why the US will declare war to China, go ahead, I'm sure I'll find a lot of people interested in this.

Not saying USA will attack. I'm saying their is a 90% chance China will want to go to war if Trump does or says something stupid.