Clyde32 said:

Prof's analysis, while weak in some areas, provided a very good opportunity that I was hoping for. Some people responded to it right away, while others required additional prodding. One person who I noticed wasn't saying anything about it was Darwin, who I prodded by throwing a vote on to him. His reaction was quite good, and has a lot of cause for me to suspect him. In day 1 he claimed he read all the big posts and skimmed the small posts, yet from what I gathered he may as well have skipped Prof's analysis entirely. Final-Fan's reaction is a bit iffy. I figured a Darwin flip would help identify that though, considering I saw instances of FF trying to divert attention away from Darwin earlier in the game.

I think I may have stayed in too long, however, as Final-Fan suggested that Mr. P may have been trying out the same thing. Which leads to the back up plan I had that, once again, Prof provided a good angle for me to approach from. I've been high on the topics of discussion for the past 5 days. Any information that I could find is already out there that my flip would help others look for. 

Anyway I could go more in depth with this plan and two others I set in motion in the dead chat. 

I've got my ears open if you'd like to go into details of those plans too.

[1] Would you care to address prof's post now and show which areas are weak?

[2]What do you make of FF being on darwin today?

[3]Are you saying your backup plan is the information town gains from your lynch? If so, seeing as you already know the result, where do you think town should go? Besides darwin of course.

You set two other plans in motion this game? Why not discuss as well as go further in depth about your plan now, while it's potentially useful.

[4]Lastly, I notice you have a lack of town reads.

Ok, so to summarize everything from day 1, he initially thinks a lynch day 1 is unlikely to be useful. He says that if stefl were a third party, it would be one of those exceptions where town gets an even better benefit (not a mafia, but better than a townie, plus info). His comments on MrP are on the fence. MrP might be or might not be scum. He didn't like MrPs response to pressure and HoS' him. He also FoS Baalz with a promise to look up info that he never followed through on. In defense of his lack of contribution, he gives an excuse that he talks without saying much as a personal fault (saying it's not alignment indicative). He follows up by saying that vanillas should contribute a lot while the power roles keep quiet. He later says when he has info, he will give it to us.

The Baalz situation was actually not meant for Baalz. It was meant for miz. At the time I didn't quite know who was who. After looking in to miz I woul dial back on that.

In his closing posts, he never once says that he believes MrP is mafia. He also said MrP's stance was clear when mrP said "why not" in reference to being asked about the suspects Axum or Stefl. Yet, in the very post MrP says that, Clyde quotes him and says, "However, I can't tell if this is a scummy play or just a noob mistake. I feel like a scum would have played this off better, but then I'm not sure how experienced he is in the game. It's definitely something worth applying pressure to. " This was actually the first post that Clyde latched on to by MrP. Clyde says he suspected MrP previously, yet he doesn't actually say anything until that "why not" post, which was called out by several people and looked indicative of a possible train lynch type of post.

Now, day 2 rolls along. Linkz says, "put up or shutup time clyde, what info do you have".
To which, clyde responds: "To be quite honest, nothing. That was bait to see if I would be targetted by the mafia. "

What?

Don't know what's not clear about this.

Linkz follows up with, and your suspects are???
Clyde says, HoS on MrP still, and I'll FoS darwin too. He basically says he unvoted MrP because of Prof's defense that MrP wasn't the same meta as his usual mafia meta. He says MrP is likely to have learned and changed his gameplay, so an HoS is warranted.
Linkz correctly asks why Prof's defense of the personal meta was enough to unvote yesterday, but not enough today. He also asks what Clyde thinks of Prof and why on the FoS to darwin.

To be fair I don't actually remember Linkz saying this, but to answer this, Day 1 we had 5 minutes left. If I left the vote there then a lynch would have happened and we couldn't go back on anything. Day 2 we still had plenty of time to discuss it.
Clyde says: "I usually reserve a FoS to someone I get a vibe from. HoS when I get something a bit more, and a vote for when there's definitely something to be found from that player. 
I think Prof is a very hard player to read. He's either a huge boon or a huge bane to the town. I will say that for how much he was throwing dirt on to Darwin, he didn't really cast a vote to seal the deal. "

As SOON as I said someone tried to kill me last night, Clyde says:
"Hmm. Is it possible this game is like the Metal Gear game with a SK, Vig and Mafia combo?"

I'll reiterate this, it was literally a post I made in like 5 seconds in a spur of the moment based on wishful thinking on my part.

I said, "I'm 100% sure Clyde has a killing role"
Clyde's immediate response is, "Trust me, if I was an SK-like role, I'd much rather keep that under the table then draw attention to it. "

What?

If the alarms aren't going off in your head right now, I don't know what kind of arguments you guys are going to need.

Then there's this post:

The assumption came from the fact that you said you were targeted by a killing role but you weren't killed. If Mr. P is to be believed then that would make 2 BP-like roles in a game. 

If there were a lot of Bulletproof roles, we can assume that there are also a lot of killing roles. The last Chartz game I played was the Metal Gear Mafia game, in which there was both a Serial Killer and a Vigilante. 

Ok, so now we are also not including any potential protections like maybe a doc? What would be hard to believe about a supposed mafia BP MrP, and a doc protection? Not saying any of this happened or is fact, but it would seem like a possible simple scenario.

Anyway, the way I see it (TL:DR version)
Clyde goes day one saying a lynch is probably not good. He is wishy washy on MrP. His only argument to vote is because he may or may not be scum, and the info might be good. This was after Xander was modkilled so already one loss to the player pool.

The problem is you don't really take into account that, yes, I have been reading everything including the arguments for or against something. If I changed my mind on something I'm not going to go into the thread and say "Okay guys I changed my mind on this" 

He defends himself by saying he doesn't talk a lot.

Also to clarify on this bit, I'm more of a reaction type of person rather than an action. I usually only respond when spoken to directly and when I do I have a roundabout way of saying things.

And then on day 2 regrets that we didn't lynch, said he was hoping mafia would target him, called me a boon or a bane to town (like, wtf where did that come from), and then on my info assumes an SK.

I already said that the boon or a bane thing was misinterpretted.

I don't even know what else to give you for evidence. 

Right now, I am looking at anyone who suddenly and mysteriously started suspecting me on early day 2, which I would infer as reprisal for surviving a night kill. The two that stand out the most are my initial suspects from yesterday, clyde and darwin. They both suspected me today before I even said anything, despite not suspecting me a single time yesterday.

If I recall correctly, I was asked to give an opinion on you, so I said that, if you were mafia you would be a serious threat and if you were town you would be a great asset. 

 
And as I said earlier, I was chosen to die over anyone else, so maybe there was truth in my suspicions. These were both my main suspects other than stefl, whom I had let off the hook after a particularly nice assumptive reasoning earlier today (I believe I know his role).

So, I know you guys don't 100% trust me, but I trust me, and form the info I have, that is what I conclude. You can either choose to listen, or to ignore me and keep questioning me. I'll just leave the info and you can come back to it later once you do trust me.

theprof00 said:
To me that post just comes off as, "people suspect me, but that was my plan all along".
So it was your plan to contribute nothing and hold all your cards to your chest? And basically be scummy?
Where was your contributions against darwin earlier? Where was your, "aha" moment?
You've basically only said that you suspect darwin, haven't done anything about it until you were asked specifically to put a vote down.
You say you suspect me as your second, which I find laughable, because now I think you're 0 for 2 as well as lurking. (Though darwin still may be scum. But looking less likely).