Thats the thing, the game has a PC release. "PC". There are already established outlets for PC game sales. I'm not saying MS can't have their own store and sell games as they see fit, but how can you sit there with a straight face and say it's in anyway ok for MS to release a PC game on the PC that can only be played with other people that bought the game from the same store you did. That inherently means that MS took the time and effort to have the game be specifically coded for them in a way that it shuts out other PC gamers all in an attempt to make the windows store the "best place to buy your ganes".

And about 2016? Well, just read my above paragraph. You still honestly think this is a different MS?

Any good you see from MS today is because they are in a losing position. A losing MS is a good MS. But even then, you can still see traces or their true character every now and again. They aren't refunding people outta the goodness of their hearts.

They just suddenly realized how bad the PR of this thing is for their windows store plans and how this little issue may have set their windows store plans back a couple of years.

The problem here is you took the phrase ghost town literally. I've said multiple times it will be a lessor experience in terms of playerbase. That's pretty obvious. That's my point. And yes it could go on for weeks considering I only have time to reply once or twice a day atm and the fact you keep ignoring my point to continue with your replies.

You said earlier ITT that BF BC2 was still active on consoles and yet it has less players than this TF PC link you're providing, which you describe as a ghost town. You should probably pick one stance and stop shifting the goal posts so that you guys quit arguing in circles. You're backpedaling mightily from your initial stance, saying Steam users will quickly be asking for refunds from this game for the same reason W10 users are.

If BC2's 400 or so users is what you consider to be active, then well, even old CoD games like MW2, MW3, Blops, Blops II, Ghosts, etc, would still qualify as active on Steam by your own definition. Eliminating the need for any Steam user to ask for a refund "rapidly" because the game is a "ghost town". Of course, it bears mentioning that BC2 has almost 600 players according to Steam charts. And that's not even mentioning the fact that TF1 isn't on Steam and its playerbase suffers for it, making it an irrelevant comparison for a game like Call of Duty.

We all know PC users do not flock to the big mega online shooters and stay as long as console gamers. They have different tastes, there are far too many options for gaming on PC. But that does not make the experience "lesser" on PC. Certainly not to the degree you're still trying to paint it as, even after some hefty backpedaling.

KLAMarine said:

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You are talking about Xbox (all that stuff u said when comparing 2013 to 2016).

Im however, talking about Microsoft.

Not just their game division, but windows store and their overall approach to business in general. 

Anyways, let's just agree to disagree. 

You said earlier ITT that BF BC2 was still active on consoles and yet it has less players than this TF PC link you're providing, which you describe as a ghost town. You should probably pick one stance and stop shifting the goal posts so that you guys quit arguing in circles. You're backpedaling mightily from your initial stance, saying Steam users will quickly be asking for refunds from this game for the same reason W10 users are.

If BC2's 400 or so users is what you consider to be active, then well, even old CoD games like MW2, MW3, Blops, Blops II, Ghosts, etc, would still qualify as active on Steam by your own definition. Eliminating the need for any Steam user to ask for a refund "rapidly" because the game is a "ghost town". Of course, it bears mentioning that BC2 has almost 600 players according to Steam charts. And that's not even mentioning the fact that TF1 isn't on Steam and its playerbase suffers for it, making it an irrelevant comparison for a game like Call of Duty.

We all know PC users do not flock to the big mega online shooters and stay as long as console gamers. They have different tastes, there are far too many options for gaming on PC. But that does not make the experience "lesser" on PC. Certainly not to the degree you're still trying to paint it as, even after some hefty backpedaling.

I'm nott aking it lerally. I'm saying it won't be a lesser experience ebcause I have a few less players. I've been able to find games on BF1 with no issues at all, same with Battlefront. You're forgetting about renable servers for BF1 which are a common thing for PC users than it is for console. In fact there are people on PC that wanted those servers day 1, to cater to their own experience and their clans.

If you want to talk of lesser experiences, then what about those other games days ago that I mentioned, that you decided to ignore and then pin on 3 "blockbusters"?.

You go on for days because you think you have something to gain, just like you've done a myriad of times before, and you know very well what happens after a few days more of pointless rambling, you know a mod has to intervene.

You ingore all of my points and then shift the posts, from populated games to "blockbusters". It's not like any of this matters anwyay, since I know you'll be watching the numbers as time goes on and wait for to make the"I'm right" thread, because that is your general character to the absolute core.

I've seen how you act on Vizioneck, I'm not stupid.