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Great read. Thanks, Gribble! That was informative. I can't wait til I purchase the Pro next year along side of a new 4k TV. This will be awesome!



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GribbleGrunger said:
SvennoJ said:
Interesting that the psvr processing unit can pass through 4K (without HDR) I guess they mean it will pass through the hdmi 1.4 version at max 30fps (yuv420 being chroma subsampled, no wide color gamut)
Doesn't matter anyway unless you have an old 4K tv prior hdmi 2.0, no point in losing 10 bit wide color gamut and HDR to avoid swapping cables.

I agree, even though I don't know what you just said.

Haha, well the psvr unit can let 4K through but limited to hdmi 1.4
3840x2160 at max 30fps
No RGB support nor the improved color of modern 4K tvs
No HDR
So only 'useful' if you have a 4K tv that's over 2 years old.

Anyone who doesn't want to swap cables and has a spare $160 laying around, this is what you need
https://www.pulse-eight.com/p/177/1x2-hdmi-20a-hdmi-20b-splitter-with-hdcp-22-support
Or you could hire someone to swap it for you.



SvennoJ said:
GribbleGrunger said:

I agree, even though I don't know what you just said.

Haha, well the psvr unit can let 4K through but limited to hdmi 1.4
3840x2160 at max 30fps
No RGB support nor the improved color of modern 4K tvs
No HDR
So only 'useful' if you have a 4K tv that's over 2 years old.

Anyone who doesn't want to swap cables and has a spare $160 laying around, this is what you need
https://www.pulse-eight.com/p/177/1x2-hdmi-20a-hdmi-20b-splitter-with-hdcp-22-support
Or you could hire someone to swap it for you.

I've never had it happen but I'm afraid I could break an HDMI port if I swap too often. I may even up going that route if HDR turns out to be worth the effort.



Cable talk, good!

Trying to figure out what's the deal with the 1.4, 2.0, 2.0a stuff.

Basically everyone tells you it doesn't matter because when a cable says 'High Speed' it should be fine. And right after that they say 2.0 cable are running at 18gbps (needed for HDR?) or something so it does matter?

Consider me confused and slightly frustrated of people trying to teach or explain something and only making things more confusing.

Running with my standard 'high speed' cables my tv recognizes the input from the normal Ps4 and changes it's settings to HDR.

So, do I need to buy these special 2.0 cables now in order to fully benefit from Hdr? Or not...



d21lewis said:
SvennoJ said:

Haha, well the psvr unit can let 4K through but limited to hdmi 1.4
3840x2160 at max 30fps
No RGB support nor the improved color of modern 4K tvs
No HDR
So only 'useful' if you have a 4K tv that's over 2 years old.

Anyone who doesn't want to swap cables and has a spare $160 laying around, this is what you need
https://www.pulse-eight.com/p/177/1x2-hdmi-20a-hdmi-20b-splitter-with-hdcp-22-support
Or you could hire someone to swap it for you.

I've never had it happen but I'm afraid I could break an HDMI port if I swap too often. I may even up going that route if HDR turns out to be worth the effort.

You don't need to worry about that. I use my ps4 in the living room and on my projector downstairs. I carry it back and forth almost daily. (Kids want to play upstairs, I play at night downstairs). So that's 3 years of cable swaps without any issues.
Of course since psvr, the swapping happens on the additional box, I don't expect any issues there either. I've got the box on top of the ps4 to make carrying all the bits up and down the stairs a bit easier. Another reason why I want the pro, kids can play on the old one upstairs, I'll keep the pro in my game room :)



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weaveworld said:
Cable talk, good!

Trying to figure out what's the deal with the 1.4, 2.0, 2.0a stuff.

Basically everyone tells you it doesn't matter because when a cable says 'High Speed' it should be fine. And right after that they say 2.0 cable are running at 18gbps (needed for HDR?) or something so it does matter?

Consider me confused and slightly frustrated of people trying to teach or explain something and only making things more confusing.

Running with my standard 'high speed' cables my tv recognizes the input from the normal Ps4 and changes it's settings to HDR.

So, do I need to buy these special 2.0 cables now in order to fully benefit from Hdr? Or not...

http://www.techradar.com/news/television/hdtv/hdmi-2-0-everything-you-need-to-know-1180242

Will I need to buy new HDMI 2.0 cables?

That depends. You can use your existing HDMI cables with new HDMI 2.0 connections as the connectors themselves haven't changed. While there's no such thing as an HDMI 2.0 cable per se, displaying 4K at 50/60Hz will require a High Speed/Category 2 HDMI cable. You can pick one up for a few pounds/dollars online. Don't spend any more.

http://www.techradar.com/news/video/why-you-don-t-need-to-spend-more-than-2-on-an-hdmi-cable-107134


I wouldn't worry too much if your existing hdmi cables don't have the high speed/cat 2 label, just try them.
https://www.cnet.com/news/why-all-hdmi-cables-are-the-same-part-2/
It either works or it doesn't.


Expensive HDMI cables is where stores make their money. Very good margins on cables.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/audioquest-diamond-3-3-high-speed-hdmi-cable-dark-gray-black/2383276.p?id=1218324437192
$1100 cable!



Gribbs, i think you should make/cvonvert this into a sort of PS4pro OT. And aggregate all the PS4pro info in one thread. Links for unboxing vids, or reviews and any other news related to it as they become available.



Intrinsic said:
Gribbs, i think you should make/cvonvert this into a sort of PS4pro OT. And aggregate all the PS4pro info in one thread. Links for unboxing vids, or reviews and any other news related to it as they become available.

No way am I ever going to do that again.



 

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GribbleGrunger said:
Intrinsic said:
Gribbs, i think you should make/cvonvert this into a sort of PS4pro OT. And aggregate all the PS4pro info in one thread. Links for unboxing vids, or reviews and any other news related to it as they become available.

No way am I ever going to do that again.

Lol....



SvennoJ said:
weaveworld said:
Cable talk, good!

Trying to figure out what's the deal with the 1.4, 2.0, 2.0a stuff.

Basically everyone tells you it doesn't matter because when a cable says 'High Speed' it should be fine. And right after that they say 2.0 cable are running at 18gbps (needed for HDR?) or something so it does matter?

Consider me confused and slightly frustrated of people trying to teach or explain something and only making things more confusing.

Running with my standard 'high speed' cables my tv recognizes the input from the normal Ps4 and changes it's settings to HDR.

So, do I need to buy these special 2.0 cables now in order to fully benefit from Hdr? Or not...


Will I need to buy new HDMI 2.0 cables?

That depends. You can use your existing HDMI cables with new HDMI 2.0 connections as the connectors themselves haven't changed. While there's no such thing as an HDMI 2.0 cable per se, displaying 4K at 50/60Hz will require a High Speed/Category 2 HDMI cable. You can pick one up for a few pounds/dollars online. Don't spend any more.

First of all many thanks for linking but all that stuff i have read on plenty of different sites already and thats why i came to ask here. It might be my lack of comprehensive skills but i am still confused. Or maybe more annoyed by the way sites are describing this issue.

I have 4 cables and they all say 'high speed' but not one has it mentioned wether they run at 18Gbps or less. Nor any mention of 1.4 or 2.0. These are all cables bought in the past 2 years from different retailers and different quality varying in prize from 4 euro's to 20 euro's. Now retailers do advertise with 2.0 cables which seems to be bullshit because it isn't a change in cable or connector from what all these informed sites tell you but in the same sentence they mention the 'new' standard for running 4k at 60hz... For which you would need 2.0 cables???

Am I this stupid I ask of you...