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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 30 October 2016

People are worried about the big western third party support, not indie or Japanese



                  

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AbbathTheGrim on 30 October 2016
Alkibiádēs said:
pokoko said:
That would sell a lot of units ... to the people who already buy Nintendo games and consoles. Pokemon is the only franchise on that list that would spur growth.

Here's the list of notable fused third part support in 2013:

Hey Alkibiades, I just read the saying you have in your signature and I think it fits the topic of this thread:

"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

Alkibiádēs on 30 October 2016
Captain_Yuri said:
People are worried about the big western third party support, not indie or Japanese

And I just showed you that a hybrid console can release enough games to keep most people busy for a year. The Wii U's main problem, and to a lesser extent the 3DS, were droughts.



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

Alkibiádēs on 30 October 2016
AbbathTheGrim said:
Alkibiádēs said:

Here's the list of notable fused third part support in 2013:

Hey Alkibiades, I just read the saying you have in your signature and I think it fits the topic of this thread:

"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

It's about Athens crushing Melos, but in the end Athens lost the war and their city was captured by the Spartans.



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 30 October 2016
Alkibiádēs said:
Captain_Yuri said:
People are worried about the big western third party support, not indie or Japanese

And I just showed you that a hybrid console can release enough games to keep most people busy for a year. The Wii U's main problem, and to a lesser extent the 3DS, were droughts.

That doesn't help with the people that want western third parties... Just because there are games available doesn't mean people are happy with them... Just look at the vita, it had tons of japanese third party support and it sold like arse.



                  

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Alkibiádēs on 30 October 2016
Captain_Yuri said:
Alkibiádēs said:

And I just showed you that a hybrid console can release enough games to keep most people busy for a year. The Wii U's main problem, and to a lesser extent the 3DS, were droughts.

That doesn't help with the people that want western third parties... Just because there are games available doesn't mean people are happy with them... Just look at the vita, it had tons of japanese third party support and it sold like arse.

Did the Vita have mainline Dragon Quest games? Monster Hunter? Yokai Watch? I don't think so...



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

vivster on 30 October 2016
pokoko said:
That would sell a lot of units ... to the people who already buy Nintendo games and consoles. Pokemon is the only franchise on that list that would spur growth.

This.

If it wants to be successful it needs to capture an audience that's not already buying everything Nintendo. Having a console that runs every 3rd party game would be a start, but we can cross that off our list already.



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 30 October 2016
Alkibiádēs said:
Captain_Yuri said:

That doesn't help with the people that want western third parties... Just because there are games available doesn't mean people are happy with them... Just look at the vita, it had tons of japanese third party support and it sold like arse.

Did the Vita have mainline Dragon Quest games? Monster Hunter? Yokai Watch? I don't think so...

Did those sell like call of duty or gta outside of Japan? I dont think so...



                  

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pokoko on 30 October 2016
Alkibiádēs said:
pokoko said:
That would sell a lot of units ... to the people who already buy Nintendo games and consoles. Pokemon is the only franchise on that list that would spur growth.

Here's the list of notable fused third part support in 2013:

- Sonic Lost Worlds

- Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate

- Phoenix Wright: Ace Attornies - Dual Destinies

- Lego Marvel Superheroes

- Skylanders: Swapforce

- Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millenium Girl

- Rune Factory 4

- Fifa 2014

- Scribblenauts Unmasked: A DC Comics Adventure

- Steamworld Dig

- Shin Megami Tensei IV

- Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate

- Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate

- Sonic All-Stars Racing Transformed

- Rayman Legends

- Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Director's Cut

- Need for Speed: Most Wanted U

- Lego City Undercover

- Resident Evil: Revelations

- Ducktales Remastered

- Just Dance 2014

- Lego Batman 2: DC Super Heroes

Still the same results, to be honest.  People who buy Nintendo already are going to be all over that.  Other than that, there is almost nothing there that is going to pull people away from an Xbox or Playstation purchase.



Alkibiádēs on 30 October 2016
vivster said:
pokoko said:
That would sell a lot of units ... to the people who already buy Nintendo games and consoles. Pokemon is the only franchise on that list that would spur growth.

This.

If it wants to be successful it needs to capture an audience that's not already buying everything Nintendo. Having a console that runs every 3rd party game would be a start, but we can cross that off our list already.

Having a home console Pokémon could do that. The hardware boost between the 3DS and the Switch is probably the biggest leap since handheld gaming started. Don't underestimate this. A lot of people, including non-Nintendo fans, are waiting for a home console experience Pokémon game... And before you say the Switch isn't powerful enough to give us that feel: I'll just direct you to Breath of the Wild.



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides