With James O'Keefe it's always for nefarious reasons. That's what he does. He starts with his conclusion and then goes out and tries to find evidence to support it, and when he can't, he makes it up.

are you saying the operatives recorded on the video are made up?  I don t think they are-  the Scott Creamer guy visited the white house 342 tims since 2009)

This ^^^ pretty much applies to the rest of humanity.  Just is.

No. Clearly.

What I am saying, is that James O'Keefe has built his career on misleading and oftentimes outright false videos and stories.

Remember his ACORN video? After his video claiming that ACORN staff were willing to help he and an accomplice start a buisiness using under age girls as prostitutes the organization lost it's public funding, followed by much of it's private funding, and had to close. Only for the investigation of the organization to rule that the staff weren't doing what the video said they were and didn't do anything illegal, and that the video was almost a complete falsehood.

This is why I totally dismiss any unedited video no matter who is delivering the source.  Usually if a video is edited and clipped together from pieces of statements then you have to view them with a grain of salt.  This is how both side have painted each other and I usually dismiss those videos out of hand because its way to hard to decern truth if someone is painting the picture.

I think these conspiracy people have to make up their mind.

Are Democrats super geniuses who can mastermind a plot involving thousands, and maybe tens of thousands, of people, several federal government organizations, every private pollster (including conservative ones like Fox News), and the state governments of at least 2/5 of the states...

Or, are they a group of bumbling buffoons who can't do anything right, can't hide their emails, can't hide the facts from some random youtube schlub, and generally don't know what they're doing in any regard.

Gotta pick one guys, cause it can't be both.

Considering the dubious source, the current state of discussion, and the fact that the OP doesn't offer any discussion of its own, I see no reason to keep this thread open. Makes sure to review Rule 3 for guidelines on creating future threads.

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