zero129 said:
So you dont remember saying you thought him as town?. Right after i said how spurge has been the voice of reason and this leads me to believe his town you posted pretty much the same thing. |
Can you post a link for me?
| spurgeonryan said: 1) To be honest you two are making it hard to decide anything. If it is an act then bravo, you both did well winning as scum. Sounds like something a scum led prof would do. But you two would need to be synchronized from the start, which would mean stefl allowed talking for you two. But since no one else seems to care, even trucks there is not much else to do but believe you and zero are town. If it was a regular game we could havejust scanned zero to try and verify, but it is not. Possibility of roles always complicates things. Usually with all sorts of crazy, but now we have most of the thread being calm except for you two, if you both are scum pulling some elaborate ruse you have no one else to take the attention away and no one is putting up a fight. It makes much more sense that you both are town and even if this ends upbeing false, it at this point iis hard to prove other wise. Can I have trucks and profs reasons for why it would not make sense for one town power in a possible two scum game? You two are the masters at roles. To me, it seems like a possibility. If he has no town to help, then him plus our voting power versus two scum makes sense. Why did they not kill zero then? 2) Why go for linkz who is or was not really a force to be reckoned with this game? Shit, Why not.....Why not prof? Night one. If trucks is scum, maybe he thought prof and zero have no leverage this game, maybe he thought zero was bluffing with his soft claim, maybe they were worried there was another town role? If they were worried there was a second town role, maybe they skipped both prof and zero for linkz because he was not on anyone's radar. I mean I thought he was playing different, but I did not vote for him and he did not get much attention. I don't know, just spit balling here or whatever it is called. Linkz was a strange, but nevertheless damaging choice. Zeros actions yesterday made today a bit more difficult. His post and vote on Xander was as strange as 3) Mr. Ps post today about prof buddying linkz. Before anyone picks my post apart, can trucks and prof give reasons for and against Zeros claim? As a single thought, not mixed with a bunch of other questions and facts. I know both of you touched on it above, but that was initial reactions. 4) I will re-read. Also Xander, mr.p, trucks, prof, zero could you all list your thoughts on who you think the scum buddy team is? We have team quiet, and team active. Zero cannot be on a team with trucks. Unless for some reason he changes his mind about trucks. Prof has not officially voted for trucks and he immediately came in to put a stop to zeros claim before people came in and did an instant vote situation. Prof/trucks possible team. Xander and Mr.P, both fairly new scum, both probably know to be quietif your not sure what to say, which in a small game is very apparent yet still very scary to lynch. Could be team members of anyone. If zero is scum and lying it could be him and prof in an act, but I feel to pull this off they would need to have open talk day and night or at least some dialogue before the game started which has happened before in games. The two newer players are too unknown to say about. So quiet you cannot get anything, but I would go for Mr. P and trucks. 5) They come in when talked about, mr.P has bizaar posts and both are quiet. Xander made a mafia no no, yet remains absent. Which is also a scum no no. Such a small game, hard to know what people would attempt. Anyways, it comes down to Zeros role. Then it comes down to voting for trucks or voting for a possible false claim and lying Zero. Done. |
I'll just answer to the parts which interest me:
1) Which two players are you referring to, I kind of have an idea but just want to confirm.
2) Most of the time it's players with potential but who don't talk a lot day 1 that end up getting killed (SuperMario Round 71 and Axumblad Round 72). Atleast that's how it's been for all of the three (Now) games I've played. It's why I think Zero isn't cray cray for soft claiming his role. After all the hubba with Prof, I think he thought he would be untouchable. Don't see why it would be any different now. This point is more of a complementary point as why Zero is porbably a cop.
3) Looking back (I do this a lot) Prof wasn't buddying with Linkz, that's my fault for not re-reading the thread because I was in a hurry. I disinctively remembered Prof saying he was biased towards Linkz and that's how I made a connection. Next time please do not be so ambigiuous (Everyone says something wrong especially when pressured to talk)
4) Xander and someone whoose telling him to shut up.
5) How exactly have I been quiet? I've been just as active as you. Sorry if I was sleeping when everyone started posting a lot.
I have no problem voting for Trucks but I want Zero to talk more about his choice in relation to why I think he scanned Trucks (See my reply to Prof)
zero129 said:
So let me get this right here since your so inconsistand. Yesterday it was fine for the to be a possible cop and possible roles however since trucks the person who was scanned guilty claims that a cop would be too over powered you just accept that?. Like i said the reason i wasnt killed or blocked is that the mafia didnt see me as a treat since they might of thought me too dumb to get a good scan so they didnt block me or i was protected or they didnt believe my claim and thought i wanted them to target me the is a number of reasons for why im still alive. So they killed who you said was the best player in the game instead. My question would be why is a town prof still alive when the was pretty much no chance of you being watched or protected last night. I guess one reason is linkz was seen as more of a treat since he was going after trucks but is it really hard to believe the same to be true for me?. One thing i do find odd is you where the first one to claim godfather in this game. I know im the cop and that means i know the mafia must have some counter role. It would make perfect sense for you to come at me and how you been acting so you would get scanned and confirmed town. I believe me scanning trucks ruined this plan for you if you are mafia and part of trucks team. |
Literally no basis to this post, just conjecture and arrogance.
You think it's perfectly reasonable for me, a mafia godfather, to denounce the uncontested cop's scan instead of just agreeing with you the whole game, and voting off xander.
To quote a certain someone, "are you even listening to yourself?".
Isn't it interesting that the only reason you trust spurge is because he's a voice of reason. The only thing that separates mafia and town to you are people who agree with you and people who don't. You think that mafia are only capable of being odd, and townies are only capable of being reasonable. It's pathetic.
Mr.Playstation said:
I'll just answer to the parts which interest me: 1) Which two players are you referring to, I kind of have an idea but just want to confirm. 2) Most of the time it's players with potential but who don't talk a lot day 1 that end up getting killed (SuperMario Round 71 and Axumblad Round 72). Atleast that's how it's been for all of the three (Now) games I've played. It's why I think Zero isn't cray cray for soft claiming his role. After all the hubba with Prof, I think he thought he would be untouchable. Don't see why it would be any different now. This point is more of a complementary point as why Zero is porbably a cop. 3) Looking back (I do this a lot) Prof wasn't buddying with Linkz, that's my fault for not re-reading the thread because I was in a hurry. I disinctively remembered Prof saying he was biased towards Linkz and that's how I made a connection. Next time please do not be so ambigiuous (Everyone says something wrong especially when pressured to talk) 4) Xander and someone whoose telling him to shut up. 5) How exactly have I been quiet? I've been just as active as you. Sorry if I was sleeping when everyone started posting a lot. I have no problem voting for Trucks but I want Zero to talk more about his choice in relation to why I think he scanned Trucks (See my reply to Prof) |
1. He's talking about me and zero. He thinks we're manipulating the game with a fake cop or something. Yes, that would be genius. Too bad there's only one genius on that team.
2. That sounds, awkward. Supermario and Axum were likely chosen (haha I chose them actually) because they were unlikely to see any kind of protection. However, in both of those games, there had been no cop on day 1, and the most recent one was vanilla. So, the situations were different. Oftentimes, the mafia simply picks someone they feel either needs to go, or is unlikely to draw any suspicion. I don't know where you got your idea, can you explain, because I'm lost.
3. Thanks, but also I thought it was pretty clear. Oh well :D
4. I don't think anyone's telling xander to keep quiet. xander is drawing so much attention for not saying anything that it would be bad advice.
5. It's true that you were basically quiet, or quieter than some others until late yesterday. If I were to do a post count, I assume it would go zero, prof, spurge (minus the quadra posts), linkz, mrp, trucks, xander
@spurge
It's not that town having a power role is overpowered.
It's having a cop that makes it overpowered.
There are several other roles that could have been used instead, like watcher tracker combo, or a couple masons, or a friendly neighbor. cop is just, well, probably the most powerful role in the game.
zero129 said:
He done both the Unfair and Your wrong lines. He claimed my scan was fake (Same as saying im wrong) and that my role is too OP and fake. Yet we dont know what roles the mafia has other then the might be a godfather like you said yesterday. Remember you here saying i was possibly the mafia godfather trying to get the real cop to scan me?. Like i said its funny how you didnt seem to think a cop was too OP yesterday and how i was possibly the mafia godfather trying to get the real cop to scan me and out of all the counter cop roles you said mafia godfather. I find the chances very high that you are on the same team as trucks and are in fact the godfather since it would make sense for why your acting how you are. |
another throwaway post with conjecture and ignorance.
Still waiting on that link that said I thought spurge was town.
zero129 said:
Exactly. Id love for prof to give a real reason for why having a cop this game would be too OP when we dont even know what roles the mafia has or anyone else. Well we do know the is a possible godfather thanks to prof saying it and since i know im the cop i know the mafia must have a counter role and godfather would be perfect. But really does no one else find it strange prof was trying to claim yesterday i was the godfather trying to get the real cop to scan me only to believe today the role is too OP. |
I'm just going to out myself so you can take my dick out of your mouth you fucking retard.
I'm the doc.
Additionally, yesterday I thought there might be a cop because I expected the mafia to have some way of countering you. But they didn't attack you and they didn't block you. So, yeah, now it seems op.
Just for everyone to know, I claimed because I really don't think there is any reason not to.
zero can you tell us what your pm said (paraphrase it) when you scanned trucks.
| zero129 said: I was really starting to think that prof+trucks was the two mafia players until now since he role claimed. However he could be fake claiming so the real doc if the is one also claims and then he trys to go for the mis lynch on that player and then have me scan prof tonight and if he is the mafia godfather (A role prof said was possibly in this game) clearly the scan would come back as not guilty setting up whoever else claimed the role for the mis lynch. But since he claimed i have no reason yet not to believe him until we see if the is a counter claim or find profs claim to be fake. However even if i have no reason "Yet" not to believe him im highly suspicius of his claim and would like to know who he did protect last night (I have a feeling his going to say you). Id also like to know since he clearly didnt want to believe linkz was mafia and said linkz was the best player in the game why he didnt protect him?. |
Tell me what happens when the real doc counterclaims, I get him lynched, and we all see that he's the real doc and I'm not? Or even if we don't see he's the doc, we'd still know a townie who counterclaimed doc and got lynched. Explain how that makes sense to my plan.
Oh, look now who's suspicious of roleclaims! Funny how when the shoe is on the other foot, it's all fair game. Again, do you listen to yourself?
I protected you (zero) because I had no reason to protect anyone else. I even said in my pm to stefl that I had a feeling linkz was mafia.
My reasoning, as I wrote in my pm: (paraphrasing)
"Trucks is a possible easy lynch, so no reason to kill
Spurge is a possible kill target
Linkz is possibly mafia, so probably not a target
xander and mrp, one is likely mafia and the other is an easy mislynch
So either zero or me.
I said I would never waste a role on zero, so hopefully they try to kill zero and get blocked,
Or, they could just target me.
The kill is probably going to be either me or zero or maybe spurge
fuck it, I'm not gunna just let a possible cop die, even if I'm wrong, and they kill me, I don't even want to play anyway
protect zero."
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