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Dark_Feanor on 05 October 2016
GribbleGrunger said:
Dark_Feanor said:

That is a very unrealistic prediction. 

Along the lines of predicting an XB1s win for a month based on one hourly update?

Was it?

 

Don't put words on my keyboard. And I thought you have changed your opinion - the PS4 slim is falling down the charts with the Pro being a much better deal in september.

 

The final september charts vinficated my analysis, that you very unpolitely dismissed, XO and PS4 will finish very close september and Pro will cave in PS4s sales.



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Dark_Feanor on 05 October 2016
CGI-Quality said:
Dark_Feanor said:

Was it?

 

Don't put words on my keyboard. And I thought you have changed your opinion - the PS4 slim is falling down the charts with the Pro being a much better deal in september.

 

The final september charts vinficated my analysis, that you very unpolitely dismissed, XO and PS4 will finish very close september and Pro will cave in PS4s sales.

The problem here is that isn't...all...you...said

It's very much why people say one shouldn't post based on an hourly update. They certainly shouldn't impulse post based on it.

I think using "I guess" shoul be enough to indicate  uncertanty. He was the one using hourly charts.

And "mostly" means "not every month".

I am very carrefull with my wording.



JRPGfan on 05 October 2016

Looks like this day, the Xbox One sold equal or slightly above the PS4.



GribbleGrunger on 05 October 2016
Dark_Feanor said:

I think using "I guess" shoul be enough to indicate  uncertanty. He was the one using hourly charts.

And "mostly" means "not every month".

I am very carrefull with my wording.

Yes, but everything you said at the time of saying it was completely the opposite of what Amazon was telling us. My assessment of Tombraider (right or wrong) is based on what I would consider legitimate metrics: Tombraider has always resonated much better with Playstation fans; this is the definititive version of the game with all the content added at no extra cost; the PS4pro version has been promoted as the best version (PS4pro owners are likely to want to try it because of that); It has PSVR intergration for some of the content (PSVR owners are likely going to want to try it out too); There are twice as many PS4 owners than XB1 owners.

I'm sticking my neck out a bit, yeah, but I don't think it's an outragious prediction.



 

The PS5 Exists. 


Dark_Feanor on 05 October 2016
CGI-Quality said:
Dark_Feanor said:

I think using "I guess" shoul be enough to indicate  uncertanty.

And "mostly" means "not every month".

I am very carrefull with my wording.

"PS4 slim is dead in the water. There is not much reason to buy one when Pro's price is so close.

Xbox One has another month, it will probaly winevery month until Scorpio launch."

I wouldn't call that careful wording. Those are absolute statements that leave no invitation for error.

The first one is indeed very opinative. No excuses. I still think Pro is cannibalizing(?) Slim sales.

 

The second I thouhgt I had write "XO has another STRONG month". Writing in the cellphone without english auto correct and complet.

 

Sorry.



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GribbleGrunger on 05 October 2016
Dark_Feanor said:

The first one is indeed very opinative. No excuses. I still think Pro is cannibalizing(?) Slim sales.

 

The second I thouhgt I had write "XO has another STRONG month". Writing in the cellphone without english auto correct and complet.

 

Sorry.

Not wishing to sound flippant but 'so what'? I don't see the relevance of the word 'cannibalize' there. If 10 slims don't sell because 10 people decide to buy the Pro instead, what difference to PS4 sales does that make? Winning every month is just a forum thing, selling consoles is a Sony thing.



 

The PS5 Exists. 


GribbleGrunger on 05 October 2016

3 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#32 XB1s-2tb Gears Bundle (up 1)
#33 PS4 Pro (up 4)*
#41 PS4s UC4 Bundle (up 2)
#48 PS4 Fool's Edition (up 6)
#63 PS4 UC4 Bundle (up 4)
#74 N3DSXL Galaxy (down 4)
#89 XB1s-2tb Madden Bundle (up 5)
#93 N3DSXL Black (down 1)

Does not affect this month (*)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)
#05 XB1 Gears Ultimate (same)
#07 3DS Pokemon Moon (down 1)
#08 3DS Pokemon Sun (same)
#09 XB1 Gears 4 (same)
#12 WiiU Paper Mario Colour Splash (up 1)
#14 PS4 Rise Of The Tombraider (up 1)
#34 PS4 Dragon's Quest Builders (up 7)
#67 PS4 World Of Final Fantasy (up 8)

PS4: 5 SKUs, 4 in the top 100 / 3 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10
XB1: 14 SKUs, 1 in the top 100 / 1 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10



 

The PS5 Exists. 


Ryng on 05 October 2016
Ryng_Tolu said:
Huuuum, 3DS is getting more love again it seem. 2 SKUs in TOP 100, Will be interesting again For me :p

Question For who use a PC, where is the Red SKUs of 3DS? I can't see the outside TOP 100 cause i use My Phone right now...

Thanks all for told me where was 3DS red Skus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4



Ryng on 05 October 2016

Yearly pre orders (1 day since last update)

#24 / Pokémon moon (up 1)
#27 / Pokmon sun (up 1)
#41 / Pokémon moon+sun double pack (same)



FIT_Gamer on 05 October 2016
GribbleGrunger said:

Thanks for keeping it updated, Poklane.

2 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#32 XB1s-2tb Gears Bundle (up 1)
#35 PS4 Pro (up 1)*
#42 PS4s UC4 Bundle (same)
#55 PS4 Fool's Edition (down 2)
#66 PS4 UC4 Bundle (down 1)
#70 N3DSXL Galaxy (same)
#92 N3DSXL Black (up 2)

Does not affect this month (*)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)
#05 XB1 Gears Ultimate (up 7)
#06 3DS Pokemon Moon (up 3)
#07 3DS Pokemon Sun (up 1)
#09 XB1 Gears 4 (up 4)
#13 WiiU Paper Mario Colour Splash (up 4)
#40 PS4 Dragon's Quest Builders (up 27)
#74 PS4 World Of Final Fantasy (down 6)
#98 PSVR Batman (new entry)

PS4: 5 SKUs, 4 in the top 100 / 3 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10
XB1: 14 SKUs, 1 in the top 100 / 1 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10

It's too early to call by my initial thoughts are that the Gears Bundle is pushing XB1 sales up and preorders of PS4pro are starting to hold the PS4s down. It very much looks like the PS4pro is going to be the defacto SKU for most people going forward. Two weeks of this and it's an easy win for the XB1 but it all depends on how long the Gears bundle can hold its appeal.

I recall someone saying this would happen a few days ago...