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Wright on 12 September 2016
pokoko said:

I'm not sure what you mean by that.  I'm here right now because Fallout 4 just crashed when I used a mod so I'm taking a break.  Locked Windows up so hard I had to restart.  Modding your game means crashing a lot more than normal, sometimes a LOT more.  Now I've got to find out why this mod is crashing the whole game when it worked previously or I've got to uninstall it and--if I really want it--wait and see if there are bug fixes.  Bethesda update, conflict with another mod, problem with the load order, even one tiny little mistake by the author, maybe even a few of these caused the problem.  I've already endorsed this mod, too.

Ugh, I knew I had worded that sentence badly, especially talking about Bethesda. I meant videogame crash as in, the market videogame crash that already happened.



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pokoko on 12 September 2016
Wright said:
pokoko said:

I'm not sure what you mean by that.  I'm here right now because Fallout 4 just crashed when I used a mod so I'm taking a break.  Locked Windows up so hard I had to restart.  Modding your game means crashing a lot more than normal, sometimes a LOT more.  Now I've got to find out why this mod is crashing the whole game when it worked previously or I've got to uninstall it and--if I really want it--wait and see if there are bug fixes.  Bethesda update, conflict with another mod, problem with the load order, even one tiny little mistake by the author, maybe even a few of these caused the problem.  I've already endorsed this mod, too.

Ugh, I knew I had worded that sentence badly, especially talking about Bethesda. I meant videogame crash as in, the market videogame crash that already happened.

Oh, hah, sorry.  I thought that was odd.

I know it's not going to crash but I'd still like to see an effort made to keep consumer confidence high when talking about closed systems.

When I download a mod from Nexus, I know I'm taking risks.  When downloading a mod directly from Bethesda, though, is it really unreasonable to ask that they at least check and see if the file will even run?  Mods on Bethesda games are a genuine selling point, even if they don't make the mods themselves.  They've made millions on Fallout and Skyrim and mod appeal is part of that.  They showed off mods on their Twitch stream for Xbox--at least one of which did not work.

As I said before, I wouldn't do what Sony is doing if I were in charge but, honestly, I can see why they might have an objection about quality control.  Bethesda is raking in money because of mods while at the same time refusing to do more than censor nudity and sexual content.  Even their mod download resource is a piss poor shadow of the privately run Nexus, despite all the money they have.



AsGryffynn on 12 September 2016
Kerotan said:
KLAMarine said:

If you say so. Perhaps I imagined PS4 console units sitting right next to XBox 1 console units at retailers.

Maybe you imagined the meaning of my reply. They're not competing with mods. And even f it was referring to consoles in the shops, judging by the sales they're not really competing they're either. They're in a league of their own.

Heh, hardly... 



Kerotan on 12 September 2016
poklane said:


lol

WellThereItisDotGiph.Gif! 

 

Sony vindicated.  Obviously the farming simulator guys respect the ps4 policies and don't try to get Sony to bend for them by causing a public meltdown.  

 

I like devs like that.  They just follow the rules,  knuckle down and get the job done for their fans.  Bethesda should take a note out of this book.  Arrogance isn't the way to go. 



Pemalite on 13 September 2016
zero129 said:
Kerotan said:

WellThereItisDotGiph.Gif! 

 

Sony vindicated.  Obviously the farming simulator guys respect the ps4 policies and don't try to get Sony to bend for them by causing a public meltdown.  

 

I like devs like that.  They just follow the rules,  knuckle down and get the job done for their fans.  Bethesda should take a note out of this book.  Arrogance isn't the way to go. 

Yep, Sony should think about that too .

Good think MS is giving their fans choice and now XB1 as the better console version of fallout 4 and it will be the same for Skyrim thanks to it.

Well unless Sony changes their mind and gives Bethesda the tools they need to allow fans to convert textures and sounds into the PS4 format.

I bet then you will be singing and dancing about bethesda mods just like you where before when they where going to be one less reason to own a PC for you .

Could you make that bitter pill any harder for him to swallow? :P




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AsGryffynn on 13 September 2016
Kerotan said:
poklane said:


lol

WellThereItisDotGiph.Gif! 

 

Sony vindicated.  Obviously the farming simulator guys respect the ps4 policies and don't try to get Sony to bend for them by causing a public meltdown.  

 

I like devs like that.  They just follow the rules,  knuckle down and get the job done for their fans.  Bethesda should take a note out of this book.  Arrogance isn't the way to go. 

If my choice is less important than your obstructive policies, it's obvious you're the problem. 



Kerotan on 13 September 2016
zero129 said:
Kerotan said:

WellThereItisDotGiph.Gif! 

 

Sony vindicated.  Obviously the farming simulator guys respect the ps4 policies and don't try to get Sony to bend for them by causing a public meltdown.  

 

I like devs like that.  They just follow the rules,  knuckle down and get the job done for their fans.  Bethesda should take a note out of this book.  Arrogance isn't the way to go. 

Yep, Sony should think about that too .

Good think MS is giving their fans choice and now XB1 as the better console version of fallout 4 and it will be the same for Skyrim thanks to it.

Well unless Sony changes their mind and gives Bethesda the tools they need to allow fans to convert textures and sounds into the PS4 format.

I bet then you will be singing and dancing about bethesda mods just like you where before when they where going to be one less reason to own a PC for you .

Take it easy on the personal attacks buddy. 

 

No if they bring the mods to the ps4 with proper quality control I'll say good job you finally did what other devs like the farming simulator guys have no problems doing. 

 

For me personally when I eventually get the complete edition cheap on sale next year I might dabble in the mods for 5mins before moving on.  



LudicrousSpeed on 13 September 2016

When two other platforms are having no issues with the mods, it's very obvious the issue lies with Sony and not Bethesda.



Kerotan on 13 September 2016
LudicrousSpeed said:
When two other platforms are having no issues with the mods, it's very obvious the issue lies with Sony and not Bethesda.

When other developers are releasing mods on their ps4 games it's clear thr issue lies with Bethesda. 



pokoko on 13 September 2016
LudicrousSpeed said:
When two other platforms are having no issues with the mods, it's very obvious the issue lies with Sony and not Bethesda.

"No issues"?  Do you know absolutely nothing about the situation?  It's been a mess with many mods not working at all and many mod authors angry at Bethesda and critical over the entire process.  How does that translate to "no issues"?  That doesn't even make sense.  You can argue that Sony should do it anyway and maybe that Bethesda has learned a lot and the growing pains will improve but "no issues"?  At least argue honestly.