The Fury said:
First point. Not because I said so, no but because isn't that what FF is? A turn based RPG? Unless I've played something else the last 20 years. Even the FF13 with it's press X to attack style was still turn based in a sense, it had the ATB. The 22 age thing was a generalisation, and sorry about that, saying turn based combat is prehistoric is too, no? I do understand your point but even then your point conflict with the subject. "The very games you mentioned are what get audience and critical acclaim, why wouldn't you follow a winning formula?" But Final Fantasy is the winning formula, it has sold more than all those game can dream of, why aren't they replicating FF traditional gameplay? Because that's not their style, that's not what people like about those games. Maybe a turn based Witcher could be a success, but those who like Witcher for what it is now would wonder why it's not like the other Witcher games. The game was developed for a time and era, what has changed over the years and made it the winning success it is, it wasn't the drastic change of gameplay that made it succeed but a change it setting, tone and a different magic system with the same basic gameplay. Nothing to do with not liking change, more wanting what I liked about something not to be totally removed. I'd have similar concern if Namco decided to stop doing a 3D Tekken and decided to make it on a 2D plane to replicate Street Fighter's success, when Tekken is already the best 3D fighting game on the market. Plus, "kid"? Older than you. |
Im gonna agree that I was wrong in saying turn base is prehistoric because Dragon Quest still plays that way and that franchise is fantastic the way it is. I was actually thinking about random encounters which is an entirely different thing - and even that still works for some games, like, let's say, Dragon Quest.
I do think, however, that FF is as succesfull as it is because it keeps reinventing itself with every new game, something most jrpg dont do. And thats what I meant that I think its wrong to expect it to keep the same gameplay - or aything besides a few nods - from game to game. Personally, I like action based rpgs. Or even active turn based, like FF12 for example. I do think classic turn based takes you out of the game sometimes in a time when we can make the enviroment of the game part of the gameplay or interact with the gameplay is some ways.
I apologize if I was condescending. More often than not people on the internet dismiss other's opinions with "you don't know youre just a kid". And thats annoying.
Jdog535 said:
See right here a trade off of opinion is why I am sometimes ashamed of the gamer community. Where as I have no problem with the people, I have a problem with their actions, and how they think of things. I was hoping that people could come on here and be respectful, and discuss withought having to say anything harsh towards others. However I find it that when someone disagress with another person, more than often they will result to insulting, and getting deffensive. I will ask you to not insult him like htat, he is not the problem. The problem is the fact that people are so dumbfounded by the fact that people have a different opinion that they won't accept it at all. Are we not gamers so that we can enjoy the games of now, and of the past? Plus I do not see where you find him saying "this game HAS to be this way because I don't like change" he just stated his opinion. Yes he should not have said the part about people under 22 because that is wrong, but you do not need to react in such a way. |
Well I am dumbfounded by the fact that you say I insulted him when I didn't, I agree I was being condescending but so was he and now I feel like a 12 year old and youarerightabouteverythingimsorrybye.
