True but I'd call those secondary features. Agree on the PS3.

Interesting how not many other review websites have picked up on this, sadly I don't have an XBox One S to test either, only a vanilla Xbox One.

With that in mind... It could just require an update... Or the reviewer in question used the wrong app. (I.E. The Xbox One S will not output movies at 4k unless the specific app supports it.)

Not that it's a terrible issue anyhow. The main advantage of upscaling on a console verses the TV is the elimination of input lag (Not an issue for media playback) and perhaps some enhancements done to the image to bolster sharpness etc'.  Still dissapointing *if* true. (Not that I was planning to upgrade untill Scorpio dropped anyway.)

Because you cannot win the power argument I am suddenly a troll? Please.

I think it's important because once Neo drops, the Slim is likely not going anywhere, it will be the cheaper "lower cost" version that should appeal to more price-concious consumers.
For most though, it's really not a big deal, but in say 10 years time when 4k is more prevelent... A console that can handle 4k would probably lend itself better, it won't do much for gaming though.

At the moment, yours would beat mine around and call it betty. lol
Need to do a massive upgrade, just the hardware I want isn't out yet. :P

I'm not sure if the Blu-ray drive is that more expensive... On PC here in Australia a 4k capable BD ROM Drive doesn't really carry much of a price premium.
The main cost would likely to do with the chip itself which would require an update to the video block, which was a cost that Microsoft must have thought was worth it.

From a sales perspective though, I don't doubt the PS4 Slim will beat the Xbox One Slim, but I wasn't looking at it from a sales perspective, I never do.

Also agree on the PS3. The Playstation 3 was a media powerhouse, easily ahead of the competition by far and actually the main reason I purchased one.
It did take awhile for Sony to catch on with digital multimedia though, but once they did, they won the multimedia game for that generation, hands down.

The only way you could play back Blu-ray on the Xbox 360 was via various transcoding means with the assistance of a PC over a network, which is hardly ideal.

The Xbox One S isn't perfect though from a Multimedia perspective, but it still beats the Playstation 4, it should be interesting to see if Sony pulls out all the tricks for the Neo, it *might* just be the console to get for Media.

I am waiting on Vega, Not just one... But four.
At the moment "Making do" with an Old Radeon 5450 and an underpowered Xbox One.
I sold all my old cards in the hopes of Polaris being a good card, before specifications and performance leaked out.

I was dissapointed. lol

I saw here on VGC a table with the estimated costs of each part. The 4K BR drive was around 40 bucks more, so it is a bit expensive. I guess that the total cost of a 4K + HDR capable PS4 Slim would be 50 to 70 dollar more, so I think it was sensible to cut it so they could even try a 200 dollar price point. I think it wouldn't be sold like this, I wouldn't be surprised if they equaled the 300 dollar price point of the One S and kept a high profit margin. 250 is more likely since it will be profitable and still give them a significant edge.

I understand that you weren't looking at the sales perspective, which is reasonable. However, as we will have the PS4K as an option that will include 4K, HDR plus a better hardware while still being much cheaper than most 4K BR players, I undertand why they didn't want to rise the costs of the PS4 Slim to attend a niche of users since they already have a product for them. While the PS3 was praised by having extensive multimedia capabilities, I guess that if they had used a DVD drive and sold it for 200 dollar less, it would have fared way better last gen. Lesson learned, I hope.

I think that it won't probably include an extra port, but at least it will keep the s/pdif. But maybe I'm wrong, they sell audio and video equipment, why not include the best on the PS4K? The only thing that seems to hold them back is that, unlike Scorpio, PS4K doesn't seem to be an "all-out best there is" console. They seen very keen to make it sell at 400-450 dollars.

That is way too high. The only essential difference is a higher NA (a different lens system). Add all the licenses you need to actually be able to play movies and I doubt you'll be close to that.

There are tons of splitters available like this one https://www.amazon.com/Tendak-Optical-Extractor-Converter-Splitter/dp/B00Y0920B4
They also have them to split one hdmi output into 2. That might be useful for my hdmi 1.4 amp, one for audi, one for video. However I have no clue if that will work with hdcp 2.2 Probably not.

I wish they had kept audio seperate and upgraded toslink instead to handle all the new sound formats. Now I need to upgrade my amplifier to be able to pass through a video signal. Retarded.

Thank you...

I have just checked, drives that support UHD BD/BDXL are the same price. (In Aus at-least.)
Most drives don't even advertise the fact they are 4k capable when they actually are.
Some drives which were BDXL only just need a firmware update for 4k Blu Ray.

The real issue is HEVC/UVD6/PureVideo support in the GPU and licensing.

The majority of the cost would likely be because of an update and respin of the APU as you would need to revise the entire video block.

The Neo could be a multimedia powerhouse... And win the Multimedia game.
But it's also still not on the market...

I'm interested to see how the Xbox One S sales do to be honest over a long term and what kind of a difference it will make as it's currently the best machine on the market for Multimedia.

I guess that the teardown probably summed all the costs with the drive price, or simply is wrong. Anyway, there's a difference in the final price of the product.

The Neo isn't on the market yet, but it's actually quite likely that both it and the Slim release for the Holidays, while MS will only have the One S to compete. While the One S pack some interesting multimedia capabilities, I'm not sure about the effect it will have against a simply cheaper version of the current PS4.

While 4K gaming is a thing, 4K movies are not. Almost all films are, at best, adequate to 1080p. Current 4K Blu-Rays are usually just upscaled versions. We don't have HDR content. Despite all of this, I don't think people care about Blu-Rays at all anymore. People will rent films on Blockbuster? Buy them and wait for a deliver? I know that physical media for games is still rocking, but I believe that people are more keen to chose it because the resale value is good and games are things that you can put dozens of hours on it, unlike films. HDR support is great, but nobody has HDR TVs.

The point is that, if someone has a 4K HDR TV, I don't see the point of getting a One S and play most games at 720p or 900p in such television. It would be better to grab a PS4K and play at least on resolutions probably midway between 1080p and 4K with good upscaling. Scorpio would also be a better option for this kind of consumers, when it launches.

5GHz Wi-Fi make it well worth the upgrade IMO.