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Shiken said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Why should they feel anything? Why not just get on with your life instead of worrying about silly things like 'race'?

While I agree with you, tell that to the media.

Dont need to tell the media anything. Everyday they become less and less relevant and are losing credibility with the populous as they continue their nonsense. They'll be their own destruction.



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Morgan Freeman said it best. Racism will not stop until we just stop talking about it. Until a Black man can look at a white man and vice versa and just see a man, it will never end. Everyone who is not white wants to play the victim (not literally everyone but you get it), and many whites want to pretend that racism is not a thing.

All races need to just shut up about the subject and see eachother as just men and women. No Black Pride, Asian Pride, Gay Pride, etc will ever get rid of racism. In fact, theh will only fuel it. This thread is a perfect example of that, just look at the title. The more you advertise it, the more people will talk about it. The more you talk about it the more racism will come out.

Everyone needs to just shut up and live as human beings. It really IS that simple. Unfortunately we are beings who over analyze every little thing to find SOMETHING to complain about. That in mind, racism will never end.



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I'm not sure what anyone would need to "feel about their race" because it's not like everyone of a certain race is one singular entity who all think and feel the same way. Everyone is their own individual with different attributes and ideals regardless of who they are or where they came from. In the context of the question of white people everyone knows and acknowledges the fucked up history that many participated in but it doesn't mean the people who are alive today are the same people who participated in that stuff or had any part in it. If it was treated as such then how is anyone expected to ever be able to move forward if they must be dragged down by the wrongdoing of others before them as soon as they are born. 

You can be disgusted at others for what they have done and express remorse at the fact that anyone could do those things while also acknowledging it doesn't mean you're personally responsible for other people's actions just because they're the same race as you, and I think that's an important distinction to make. Otherwise that's sadly how generalizations start when the actions of some people can make everyone seem like that, much like with all the terrorist attacks that have happened in the past few years where you commonly see people generalizing middle eastern people because of the actions of a few.

Nobody should be beholden to other people's sins except for their own. Your race doesn't define you only your actions do. 

Edit: I'm editing this comment and rewriting it to better accurately portray what I meant to say at the time, as my previous comment was very poorly worded.

Last edited by FloatingWaffles - on 16 August 2021

Shiken said:
Morgan Freeman said it best. Racism will not stop until we just stop talking about it. Until a Black man can look at a white man and vice versa and just see a man, it will never end. Everyone who is not white wants to play the victim (not literally everyone but you get it), and many whites want to pretend that racism is not a thing.

All races need to just shut up about the subject and see eachother as just men and women. No Black Pride, Asian Pride, Gay Pride, etc will ever get rid of racism. In fact, theh will only fuel it. This thread is a perfect example of that, just look at the title. The more you advertise it, the more people will talk about it. The more you talk about it the more racism will come out.

Everyone needs to just shut up and live as human beings. It really IS that simple. Unfortunately we are beings who over analyze every little thing to find SOMETHING to complain about. That in mind, racism will never end.

Ignoring that type of problem won't make it go away.  The more you talk about racism, the more racists get upset.  If everyone just shut up and treated each other equally, that would indeed solve the problem, but how are we supposed to stamp out injustices that no one is allowed to talk about? 

Why did you generalize nonwhites more than whites in the first paragraph?  Compare:  all whites want to pretend that racism is not a thing (not literally, but you get it), and many non-whites want to play the victim.  You did basically take it back in parentheses, but why say it like that in the first place? 



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The problem lies in the contrast that exists between the races.

Simple examples

1. Asian and white race invented and later created 99% of the things that make up today's world (no problems between these two races. Strange ?)

2. Let's go back about 500 years. Chinese moving to Africa and black people in the areas of Asia. What continent is the economic power in 2016 ?

3. Simple statistics . How many whites killed by blacks and vice versa.

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The thing is sterotypes are furthered by the allocated minority groups especially postive ones.

Being indian we sort are proud of those postive stereotypes or think we are like them.



Final-Fan said:
Shiken said:
Morgan Freeman said it best. Racism will not stop until we just stop talking about it. Until a Black man can look at a white man and vice versa and just see a man, it will never end. Everyone who is not white wants to play the victim (not literally everyone but you get it), and many whites want to pretend that racism is not a thing.

All races need to just shut up about the subject and see eachother as just men and women. No Black Pride, Asian Pride, Gay Pride, etc will ever get rid of racism. In fact, theh will only fuel it. This thread is a perfect example of that, just look at the title. The more you advertise it, the more people will talk about it. The more you talk about it the more racism will come out.

Everyone needs to just shut up and live as human beings. It really IS that simple. Unfortunately we are beings who over analyze every little thing to find SOMETHING to complain about. That in mind, racism will never end.

Ignoring that type of problem won't make it go away.  The more you talk about racism, the more racists get upset.  If everyone just shut up and treated each other equally, that would indeed solve the problem, but how are we supposed to stamp out injustices that no one is allowed to talk about? 

Why did you generalize nonwhites more than whites in the first paragraph?  Compare:  all whites want to pretend that racism is not a thing (not literally, but you get it), and many non-whites want to play the victim.  You did basically take it back in parentheses, but why say it like that in the first place? 

Bolded - a straight up example of the overanalysing mentioned in Shiken's post. It doesn't help.

It's true that talking about racism will not make racism and racial inequality go away. It's also true that ignoring it won't make it go away. But doing something positive that will unite all groups, will certainly go a long way into making that happen.

Nobody can deny that there has been progress towards complete equality between groups, and nobody can deny that there's still a long way to go. Unfortunately, it will take generations before that goal is achieved, because the horrific way in which various groups have treated other various groups are still within living memory.  And it will never be achieved until all groups realise that history is in fact something that should be learned from, not something that is used to antagonise one another and perpetuate rifts. Until that is realised, there will still always be groups, meaning that people will never be able to work together to stamp out racism and inequality. All they'll do is keep talking about it, accusing one another of it, and racism in all its various guises will continue to flourish.



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Final-Fan said:
Shiken said:
Morgan Freeman said it best. Racism will not stop until we just stop talking about it. Until a Black man can look at a white man and vice versa and just see a man, it will never end. Everyone who is not white wants to play the victim (not literally everyone but you get it), and many whites want to pretend that racism is not a thing.

All races need to just shut up about the subject and see eachother as just men and women. No Black Pride, Asian Pride, Gay Pride, etc will ever get rid of racism. In fact, theh will only fuel it. This thread is a perfect example of that, just look at the title. The more you advertise it, the more people will talk about it. The more you talk about it the more racism will come out.

Everyone needs to just shut up and live as human beings. It really IS that simple. Unfortunately we are beings who over analyze every little thing to find SOMETHING to complain about. That in mind, racism will never end.

Ignoring that type of problem won't make it go away.  The more you talk about racism, the more racists get upset.  If everyone just shut up and treated each other equally, that would indeed solve the problem, but how are we supposed to stamp out injustices that no one is allowed to talk about? 

Why did you generalize nonwhites more than whites in the first paragraph?  Compare:  all whites want to pretend that racism is not a thing (not literally, but you get it), and many non-whites want to play the victim.  You did basically take it back in parentheses, but why say it like that in the first place? 

Read your post and realize that your way of thinking is part of the problem.  "Why did you generalize nonwhites as part of the problem?"

 

Oh please, anyone can see that it is directed to EVERYONE.  However because I put the parentheses in a sentence between whites and non-whites, I have to be talking about one group. /s

 

BTW reread it.  You have it flip flopped.  If you are going to quote me to try to make a point, at least get the quote right.  Also do not bring out one aspect of my post and ignore the rest.  I never said to simply ignore it.  I said everyone needs to shut up about it and just treat eachother as people instead of people of color.  This will never happen if people are always taking about it, but we are too hard headed as a species to actually pull it off anyway.



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