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hershel_layton on 23 July 2016
Leadified said:
We've gone off topic here, if you want to talk about the Munich attack then discuss it in the thread.

it's a good thing we had a mod to solve the issue :P

 



 

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hershel_layton on 23 July 2016
Aura7541 said:
RolStoppable said:

Your argument was bad. Or have you ever heard of an islamic attack where the killer fled the scene only to shoot himself right afterwards? That's why I said that it's probable that the killing spree wasn't an islamic attack, but rather is an amok run because the pattern fits such a crime.

How an attacker goes about his killing spree determines what his motivation can be. Crimes cannot only be analyzed from start to finish, but they can also be tracked back from the end to the start. Just because you don't grasp my thought process doesn't mean that it was illogical.

In my response to you in the other thread I said that one piece of the limited information is that there have been a lot of conflicting eye witness reports. Based on the information that the ninth dead person is probably a killer, I had no reason to believe that Muslim woman for one second. Likewise, the likelyhood that there was more than one shooter was also slim based on the presumable suicide, so I didn't put much stock into the eye witness reports that suggested three killers were at work and instead was leaning towards a single person being the culprit.

Actually, the bolded argument is bad because this is a No True Scotsman fallacy and reinforces my argument that there's no one criteria for what constitutes an Islamic attack. Just because that scenario doesn't typically happen in an Islamic attack doesn't mean it automatically makes it not one. For example, what if the killer commits suicide because he thinks it is more honorable to kill himself than being killed by infidels? Or perhaps after he killed nine people, he has doubts on whether his actions were justified and kills himself in regret. This is why the motivation is more important than the pattern because an Islamic attack can go many different ways even if it doesn't go the way it "typically" does.

The attack itself was weird. The shooter was strange as well.

 

Had mental issues and depression. Even had a Facebook where he pretended to be a girl.

 

Maybe he was simply nuts?



 

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Leadified on 23 July 2016
hershel_layton said:
Leadified said:
We've gone off topic here, if you want to talk about the Munich attack then discuss it in the thread.

it's a good thing we had a mod to solve the issue :P

 

Better late than never right? Besides, now it's official



JustcallmeRiff on 23 July 2016
Leadified said:
We've gone off topic here, if you want to talk about the Munich attack then discuss it in the thread.

In the opinion of a moderator, if I enter multiple threads that have little to nothing to do with Islam and incessantly repeat " Islamic attack" is there a problem?



Leadified on 23 July 2016
JustcallmeRiff said:
Leadified said:
We've gone off topic here, if you want to talk about the Munich attack then discuss it in the thread.

In the opinion of a moderator, if I enter multiple threads that have little to nothing to do with Islam and incessantly repeat " Islamic attack" is there a problem?

Do you have reasonable cause to believe that it could be an attack by Islamic extremists? Let's not forget that yesterday for example, there were contradictory reports on the shooter and nobody knew for certain what was going on. If you're starting to become stubborn after it's shown that the attack was not done by Islamic extremists then you will have a problem because it's starting to sound like you're trying to push an agenda.

Now if you're like our good friend BakaAka and his one thousand alts who insists on spamming the forums and not even attempting to have a decent conversation, you're going to obviously have problems.



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hershel_layton on 23 July 2016
RolStoppable said:
hershel_layton said:

it's a good thing we had a mod to solve the issue :P

User congratulates mod for stepping in.

One minute later...

hershel_layton said:

The attack itself was weird. The shooter was strange as well.

 

Had mental issues and depression. Even had a Facebook where he pretended to be a girl.

 

Maybe he was simply nuts?

I. Am. Speechless.

Well- you know what? It was a mistake. I won't deny it.

 

should have sent it as a PM message. 

 

No use trying to defend myself. that was a dumb mistake 



 

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Leadified on 23 July 2016
hershel_layton said:
RolStoppable said:

User congratulates mod for stepping in.

One minute later...

I. Am. Speechless.

Well- you know what? It was a mistake. I won't deny it.

 

should have sent it as a PM message. 

 

No use trying to defend myself. that was a dumb mistake 

Admit it, you were taking the piss out of me, weren't you?



hershel_layton on 23 July 2016
Leadified said:
hershel_layton said:

Well- you know what? It was a mistake. I won't deny it.

 

should have sent it as a PM message. 

 

No use trying to defend myself. that was a dumb mistake 

Admit it, you were taking the take the piss out of me, weren't you?

I actually just felt like responding. idk why.

 



 

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Leadified on 23 July 2016
hershel_layton said:
Leadified said:

Admit it, you were taking the take the piss out of me, weren't you?

I actually just felt like responding. idk why.

 

You seem to get the message in your last post  so don't worry about it, I'm just teasing you. It's Saturday night, I'm allowed to have some fun too, right?

Anyways, I'd like to get back to the topic at hand now in case people have questions and concerns.



hershel_layton on 23 July 2016
Leadified said:
hershel_layton said:

I actually just felt like responding. idk why.

 

You seem to get the message in your last post  so don't worry about it, I'm just teasing you. It's Saturday night, I'm allowed to have some fun too, right?

No, a moderator is supposed to be boring and emotionless.



 

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