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Dno on 28 March 2008
selnor said:
Salamursu said:
There's better technology available all the time, but it does not mean that console generations should be abandoned just to implement every new component available. What would be the point in the console business if new generations were introduced every three years.
I agree. But the jump next year isnt just like Geforce 7 to 8 or Pentium 3 to 4. This is a radical new way of making games a whole lot more powerful. The numbers they are able to crunch are massive. There is no longer need for a seperate graphics card. My point is this gen will be no longer than any other generation. And because of the jump next year it applys moreso to this gen than any other. PS3 and 360 are supposed to be the forefront of HD graphical gaming . But there will be a massive gap next year and especially 2010, 2011 when we see games take advantage of the change. 

 


you will only see PC games that use this and it will fail just like most other pc games in 2006 till now.

Consoles are where the money is at.



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MikeB on 28 March 2008
selnor said:
MikeB said:
PDF said:
I only see that Sony mangaed to pull out of the same track the DC was in and is now doing better

And there are more than enough anticipated PS3 games lined-up for Japan. MGS4 will help considerably in the short term. Once Final Fantasy and a slimline PS3 launches I predict Japan will go PS3 crazy.

The PS3 is a 10 year product strategy, for Japan it was a 1st round knockout against the 360, first punch knock out actually.

10 year product that is obselete in 2009. AMD and Intel release amzingly fast CPU and GPU combined processors which more than double dot productions in gaming. PS3 or 360 will not last till 2017. Both are equal in graphical capabilities. And niether will be able to run the new UE4 which is being developed for the new PC processors. Question is where does this leave ATI and NVIDIA?

 


The PS3 already has some of the technically most impressive games such as Uncharted and Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction, yet such games only scratch the surface of what can be achieved through PS3 specific game engine enhancements.

Consoles are easier to use, no fuss strainght forward and more seamless in usage for many things. It's not only about raw power, but Windows by itself drains a lot potential PC perfomance and games are never optimised to the extend console games are being optimised for the remaining power. Consoles are also about value for money, currently there is even no expensive x86 Windows PC available which provides the equivalent performance potential that the PS3 Cell processor can provide nor do PCs offer a Blu-Ray drive by default at console price points.

The PS3 will get cheaper and slimmer in course of time, the games library will rapidly expand and improve in quality, the Blu-Ray movie library will expand, new services like Home and PlayTV will be launched, this all considerably enhancing the value for money ratio for the PS3. If you understand this then you can understand why the PS2 is still selling pretty well, but the PS3 is now much better specced than the PS2 was for the time the PS2 console launched, much better!



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

Zero Hero on 28 March 2008

It's too bad there is no forum search, because then the OP would have seen that there were dozens of this EXACT same thread already.



So what do you win if your prefered console sells more than another?

leo-j on 28 March 2008

I remember when rol said the ps3 would never reach dream cast numbers, and how soriku said the PS3 would only end up with a little above 5 million consoles by the end of 07 XD



 

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konnichiwa on 28 March 2008

PS3 is doomed.






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Words Of Wisdom on 28 March 2008
MikeB said:
selnor said:
MikeB said:
PDF said:
I only see that Sony mangaed to pull out of the same track the DC was in and is now doing better

And there are more than enough anticipated PS3 games lined-up for Japan. MGS4 will help considerably in the short term. Once Final Fantasy and a slimline PS3 launches I predict Japan will go PS3 crazy.

The PS3 is a 10 year product strategy, for Japan it was a 1st round knockout against the 360, first punch knock out actually.

10 year product that is obselete in 2009. AMD and Intel release amzingly fast CPU and GPU combined processors which more than double dot productions in gaming. PS3 or 360 will not last till 2017. Both are equal in graphical capabilities. And niether will be able to run the new UE4 which is being developed for the new PC processors. Question is where does this leave ATI and NVIDIA?

 


The PS3 already has some of the technically most impressive games such as Uncharted and Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction Opinion, yet such games only scratch the surface of what can be achieved through PS3 specific game engine enhancements. Opinion

Consoles are easier to use, no fuss strainght forward and more seamless in usage for many things. Half-truth It's not only about raw power, but Windows by itself drains a lot potential PC perfomance Half-truth and games are never optimised to the extend console games are being optimised for the remaining power. Lie Consoles are also about value for money Fact, currently there is even no expensive x86 Windows PC available which provides the equivalent performance potential that the PS3 Cell processor can provide Lie nor do PCs offer a Blu-Ray drive by default Fact at console price points. Lie

The PS3 will get cheaper Fact and slimmer in course of time Opinion, the games library will rapidly expand Fact and improve in quality Opinion, the Blu-Ray movie library will expand Fact, new services like Home and PlayTV will be launched Fact, this all considerably enhancing the value for money ratio for the PS3 Opinion . If you understand this then you can understand why the PS2 is still selling pretty well Lie, but the PS3 is now much better specced than the PS2 was for the time the PS2 console launched Fact, much better! Opinion


I've provided a helpful legend with which to read MikeB's post.

Also - $130 BluRay PC drive



mesoteto on 28 March 2008

Quick to the cat computer….

Inputting info: sega, sony, ps3, dreamcast, spam, eggs, rubber tubing…..

Yes…yes….i see……OMG






The answer is Chuck Norris ?!?!?!?!?1?!!?!?!?!?


wait what was the question?



 

Ajax on 28 March 2008

guys
watch the n64 chart against the ps3 for japan
the ps3 is really behind the n64 there in the first 156 weeks

''Hadouken!''

leo-j on 28 March 2008

I didnt know that N64 was only japan so I edited this post



 

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Ajax on 28 March 2008

those n64 numbers you posted via that link are wrong leo-j
in that chart n64 sold 4 mill wordlwide in 3 years
couldn't you have seen that yourself?



''Hadouken!''