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Robert_Downey_Jr. on 02 July 2016
SWORDF1SH said:
Barkley said:

If they do indeed go ahead with the PlayStation 5 I expect it will be Sony's last defined generation and the ps5 will be continuously updated, and I expect it won't be called the PlayStation 5 either.

I think the advantage of having a defined generation is it's clearer to communicate with the consumer. I'm sure Sony will want to add major features and/or take and/or adapt their direction in gaming. Releasing a PS5 will get that message across much more efficient. The downside is when you start a new generation, you start from zero and have to build up once again. 

well that's pretty easily fixed.  BC PS5 with PS4.  Shouldn't be hard with X86 and all



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Robert_Downey_Jr. on 02 July 2016
DonFerrari said:
Ruler said:

i highly doubt MS will able to let you play new games for a six years old console generation, at some point you have to make a cut. This is the same on PC, i cant play DX11 games for my 6 years old graphicscard.

I expect that PS with the X and X.5 versions and Xbox with however they decide to name their interactions will have no more then 2 and streaching 3 during transition versions of the console having games launched to (maybe indies will survive longer)

this sorta shit is why I hate this continually upgrading model.  Just make clean cuts!



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DonFerrari on 02 July 2016
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
DonFerrari said:

I expect that PS with the X and X.5 versions and Xbox with however they decide to name their interactions will have no more then 2 and streaching 3 during transition versions of the console having games launched to (maybe indies will survive longer)

this sorta shit is why I hate this continually upgrading model.  Just make clean cuts!

same here



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 02 July 2016
Ruler said:
Captain_Yuri said:
Now my question is, will ps4 games work with ps5? If they do than great but if they dont, than I might like MS route better. We will see tho

i highly doubt MS will able to let you play new games for a six years old console generation, at some point you have to make a cut. This is the same on PC, i cant play DX11 games for my 6 years old graphicscard.

What does that have to do with my comment???

I don't care if my old console can play new games... I care if my new console could play old games... The games that the console after Scorpio probably won't work on xbox 1 but the xbox 1 games will work on the console after Scorpio and thats what I care about. Backwards Compatibility

Its one of the main reasons I love PC gaming. I don't have to have 5 PCs with 5 different OS's in order to play old games, but 1 PC with 1 OS which allows me to play old games to new games. Of course it isn't perfect but generally, there are ways to play old games one way or another.



                  

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Ruler on 02 July 2016
Captain_Yuri said:
Ruler said:

i highly doubt MS will able to let you play new games for a six years old console generation, at some point you have to make a cut. This is the same on PC, i cant play DX11 games for my 6 years old graphicscard.

What does that have to do with my comment???

I don't care if my old console can play new games... I care if my new console could play old games... The games that the console after Scorpio probably won't work on xbox 1 but the xbox 1 games will work on the console after Scorpio and thats what I care about. Backwards Compatibility

Its one of the main reasons I love PC gaming. I don't have to have 5 PCs with 5 different OS's in order to play old games, but 1 PC with 1 OS which allows me to play old games to new games. Of course it isn't perfect but generally, there are ways to play old games one way or another.

ahh okay i thought you talked about Fordward compatibility. Its pretty obvious that PS5 will play PS4 games going forward thanks to the x86 architecture now. You cant play all PC games with 1 OS by the way, at some point your games wills stop running on the latest windows



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 02 July 2016
Ruler said:
Captain_Yuri said:

What does that have to do with my comment???

I don't care if my old console can play new games... I care if my new console could play old games... The games that the console after Scorpio probably won't work on xbox 1 but the xbox 1 games will work on the console after Scorpio and thats what I care about. Backwards Compatibility

Its one of the main reasons I love PC gaming. I don't have to have 5 PCs with 5 different OS's in order to play old games, but 1 PC with 1 OS which allows me to play old games to new games. Of course it isn't perfect but generally, there are ways to play old games one way or another.

ahh okay i thought you talked about Fordward compatibility. Its pretty obvious that PS5 will play PS4 games going forward thanks to the x86 architecture now. You cant play all PC games with 1 OS by the way, at some point your games wills stop running on the latest windows

Well we are getting lots of ways to be able to play super old games. You can play them through virtual machines or through a patch from some sites. Granted some games still won't work but it is significantly better than console's offerings in terms of how far you can go.



                  

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Ruler on 02 July 2016
Captain_Yuri said:
Ruler said:

ahh okay i thought you talked about Fordward compatibility. Its pretty obvious that PS5 will play PS4 games going forward thanks to the x86 architecture now. You cant play all PC games with 1 OS by the way, at some point your games wills stop running on the latest windows

Well we are getting lots of ways to be able to play super old games. You can play them through virtual machines or through a patch from some sites. Granted some games still won't work but it is significantly better than console's offerings in terms of how far you can go.

yeah but if you keep your old console you can play your old games flawlesslay as well :) but yeah BC is a great step moving forward



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(2015) Question for PS4 owners: if the situation would be reverse? would you still play on PS4?

(2015) The "I don't care PS4 is the most powerful console" thread

DonFerrari on 02 July 2016
John2290 said:
Ps5 November 2019? Ohh. yeah!

what are you talking about



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 02 July 2016
Ruler said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Well we are getting lots of ways to be able to play super old games. You can play them through virtual machines or through a patch from some sites. Granted some games still won't work but it is significantly better than console's offerings in terms of how far you can go.

yeah but if you keep your old console you can play your old games flawlesslay as well :) but yeah BC is a great step moving forward

Besides, on PS3 we saw how much the userbase cares about BC, X1 refreshed our minds as well.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 02 July 2016
Ruler said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Well we are getting lots of ways to be able to play super old games. You can play them through virtual machines or through a patch from some sites. Granted some games still won't work but it is significantly better than console's offerings in terms of how far you can go.

yeah but if you keep your old console you can play your old games flawlesslay as well

Thats true but old consoles don't last forever nor do the discs/cartridges. Also having the old consoles takes up space and the cables become messy. It is just way more convient to have one device that does everything rather than multiple devices that does their own thing. Plus PCs can emulate console games as well and it also can have a wide variety of controllers. Heck, emulation can also have better framerate on games that didn't have them before.

But I am not thinking that a console should be able to do all that. I just want one device so that I can trade in my old console in order to save some money for my new one! So like trade in a ps4 for ps5 which = $200 off or something.



                  

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