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Forums - Nintendo - Breath of the wild vs Horizon Zero Dawn... rant.

bananaking21 said:
So let me get this straight, you are talking about other users being "insecure" when you are the one making a thread complaining about the comparisons?

what???? i'm the one making the thread saying that both games look great and i like one of the games more but i don't have to say that the other game is shit.



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BraLoD said:

This thread pointing "not from zelda fans, but from horizon fans", then calling them insecure, is part of the problem you try to address with it.
You are taking a side and giving your perspective on it, you are not ranting Zelda vs Horizon as the title says at all, you are ranting Horizon fans talking about Zelda.

Pretty much self explains where some of those come from.

maybe cause that's what I see? I'm not everywhere so i can't have all the perspectives.



*Patiently waiting for a counter attack thread just like with them e3 threads.


I dont know what your talking about because I have not seen any of that in VGchartz. Probably because im still lining up in this HYPE TRAIN on my sig. XD



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Chazore said:
pokoko said:
What I'd like to know is, why does it only seem to work one way? Sony conference threads were full of Nintendo fans expressing negative opinions. Why doesn't that count? I've seen people complaining that all Sony games "look the same," that the conference was bad because it was too short, that they're copying TLoU with everything, that "one game beat Sony's whole conference," that they only care about visual and not game-play.

And you're telling me that you didn't see any of that?

Insecurity, huh? Heh.

That would be more like the Angry Joe Top 10 thread, where people were saying Zelda wasn't on the list "because he hates Nintendo", as though everyone has to like it or they're wrong. That, actually, would be a great example of insecurity.

Tbh Joe hasn't shown nor detailed his history with Nintendo over the years he's been broadcasting on YT. The only recent time he ever tried to do anything Nintendo related was when he clearly wanted to make money off of a Nintendo LP, Ninty shut that attempt down and Joe threw a massive fit and swore off Nintendo since then. I've been watching Joe since his early days and he has hardly mentioned nor cared much for Nintendo so I can attest to him making a big fit as to why he isn't bothering to list anything from them. I like his content but Joe is very much a guy who gets arrogant when he cannot make money from anything he streams, he gets very, very emotional about not getting what he wants streaming wise.

What I want to know is why we're seeing more threads popping up on Sony game views and how Nintendo viewing data is all "skewed" and "fake", this isn't me painting a picture for you btw, this is actually happening right now, you see both sides paint you a picture on a single canvas and you alone will also decide who is doing what, we are all biased creatures so lets not pretend we are above anything else. One side posted data and the other called it fake, then the ones who called a bluff ended up doing the same, that can also be an example of insecurity, that you need to call the other side fake, then rally your own information to show that your side isn't fake in case you are called out for it, that initially stems from being insecure to begin with.

Also I'd like to add that in the two years I have been on this site, there has been a lot of negative news being posted by various suers who in the past have voiced their displeasure of a particular brand or two, one  user of which has been banned multiple times for crossing the line with their bias getting a bit too out of control that their tongue slips and the hammer falls, there is no denying that people do this out of insecurity, that they need to constantly put others down to make themselves feel better. Each time I visit this site I see at least 1-2 good bits of news for Nintendo and MS, then the rest goes straight downhill from there on, again no picture is being skewed, bad information that displays a negative reaction or tells of negativity is objectively bad news, there is no excusing bad news when it is posted, however it can be easily related to one trying to post bad news to make it appear as though a few sides simply cannot catch a break, which is something that seems to happen on a near daily basis here for the two years I've been with the site.

Call me biased but when I see bad news, I see bad news. I see the user and the picture paints itself without me having to touch the brush, for they paint on the canvas willingly themselves.

Honestly, I read all that but I still don't really know what you're talking about.  I don't even actually believe you, as we have a particular Xbox user who posts every scrape of bad Sony news that he can.  Why don't you see that?  We've had plenty of Nintendo users get banned.  Why doesn't that count?  Also, a lot of the "bad" Nintendo threads are made by Nintendo users.  I've seen at least one of them today.

The entire "your side is worse than my side" thing is childish bullshit that goes nowhere.



pokoko said:

Honestly, I read all that but I still don't really know what you're talking about.  I don't even actually believe you, as we have a particular Xbox user who posts every scrape of bad Sony news that he can.  Why don't you see that?  We've had plenty of Nintendo users get banned.  Why doesn't that count?  Also, a lot of the "bad" Nintendo threads are made by Nintendo users.  I've seen at least one of them today.

You don't have to believe me, I'm not asking you directly to believe me at all but what makes me think I should do the same?, you claim it's a two way street and that we are all somehow equal in one way (because I feel that's where your pov is going towards) despite the fact that none of us were ever even equal to begin with, nor are the platforms, nor out intellect, our likes and dislikes.

It's easy to say we're all perfectly equal, all the same while also deciding to damn a group, you yourself are pointing this out to me and now I'm expect to watch you like a hawk until the time comes where you don't judge equally for all parties (and yes that will happen because we're human, we're biased anf very much flawed so lets no pretend we're perfect).

We aren't the same, you and me, everyone else, we aren't and never will be equals in body, mind and spirit.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

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Chazore said:
pokoko said:

Honestly, I read all that but I still don't really know what you're talking about.  I don't even actually believe you, as we have a particular Xbox user who posts every scrape of bad Sony news that he can.  Why don't you see that?  We've had plenty of Nintendo users get banned.  Why doesn't that count?  Also, a lot of the "bad" Nintendo threads are made by Nintendo users.  I've seen at least one of them today.

You don't have to believe me, I'm not asking you directly to believe me at all but what makes me think I should do the same?, you claim it's a two way street and that we are all somehow equal in one way (because I feel that's where your pov is going towards) despite the fact that none of us were ever even equal to begin with, nor are the platforms, nor out intellect, our likes and dislikes.

It's easy to say we're all perfectly equal, all the same while also deciding to damn a group, you yourself are pointing this out to me and now I'm expect to watch you like a hawk until the time comes where you don't judge equally for all parties (and yes that will happen because we're human, we're biased anf very much flawed so lets no pretend we're perfect).

We aren't the same, you and me, everyone else, we aren't and never will be equals in body, mind and spirit.

Okay ... uh.  I guess.



pokoko said:

The entire "your side is worse than my side" thing is childish bullshit that goes nowhere.

This exactly.

The entire premise here is essentially based on a strawman, which in turn is making people create opposing strawmen. It's terrible, pointless, and reading through some of the comments here just makes me cringe. There's not really anything to discuss when we point at entire fanbases, and claiming one side is worse than the other is about the most asanine discussion I can think of.

I honestly can't foresee any positive discussion coming out of this thread, so I'm going to close it before it just gets worse. Thread locked.



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