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Your i3-2120 CPU is from the Sandy Bridge family, socket 1155. It will be a bit hard to find a new processor, but you should be able to find used ones.

This is a list of compatible Sandy Bridge CPUs: http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/CPUs/Intel/Core_i3/i3-2120.html

Your best options are the i7-2600 and i5-2500, because I'm going to assume that your motherboard won't let you overclock, which is the main reason to get a "K" processor. But if you can find one of them for cheap, go for it!



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Former gaming PC: i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

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JEMC said:

Your i3-2120 CPU is from the Sandy Bridge family, socket 1155. It will be a bit hard to find a new processor, but you should be able to find used ones.

This is a list of compatible Sandy Bridge CPUs: http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/CPUs/Intel/Core_i3/i3-2120.html

Your best options are the i7-2600 and i5-2500, because I'm going to assume that your motherboard won't let you overclock, which is the main reason to get a "K" processor. But if you can find one of them for cheap, go for it!

OK. Cool. What about the wattage? The current CPU is 65w. Should I stick with that wattage? Because for both of those listed above, there is a "s" version that is 65w.



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dreamcast210 said:
JEMC said:

Your i3-2120 CPU is from the Sandy Bridge family, socket 1155. It will be a bit hard to find a new processor, but you should be able to find used ones.

This is a list of compatible Sandy Bridge CPUs: http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/CPUs/Intel/Core_i3/i3-2120.html

Your best options are the i7-2600 and i5-2500, because I'm going to assume that your motherboard won't let you overclock, which is the main reason to get a "K" processor. But if you can find one of them for cheap, go for it!

OK. Cool. What about the wattage? The current CPU is 65w. Should I stick with that wattage? Because for both of those listed above, there is a "s" version that is 65w.

The S is a designation of "low power", which is why is uses less power, but at the expense of lower frequencies.

But with your new power supply, you should be fine even with the most power hungry processors. Don't worry about TDP when searching for a new CPU.



Please excuse my bad English.

Former gaming PC: i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.

JEMC said:
dreamcast210 said:

OK. Cool. What about the wattage? The current CPU is 65w. Should I stick with that wattage? Because for both of those listed above, there is a "s" version that is 65w.

The S is a designation of "low power", which is why is uses less power, but at the expense of lower frequencies.

But with your new power supply, you should be fine even with the most power hungry processors. Don't worry about TDP when searching for a new CPU.

Thanks for the info. I figured the GPU I ordered says it needs 400w. I got a 500w supply and wasn't sure how a higher wattage cpu would impact things.



Author of science fiction and other genres, I write under the pen name Desmond Shepherd. The second season of my series The Permanent Man premieres on November 11, 2014. Pre-order the season premiere The Walls Have Ears on Amazon today!

dreamcast210 said:
JEMC said:

The S is a designation of "low power", which is why is uses less power, but at the expense of lower frequencies.

But with your new power supply, you should be fine even with the most power hungry processors. Don't worry about TDP when searching for a new CPU.

Thanks for the info. I figured the GPU I ordered says it needs 400w. I got a 500w supply and wasn't sure how a higher wattage cpu would impact things.

If you want to feel safer, there are sites that calculate the Wattage your computer will use, to help you calculate what PSU you need, like this one from CoolerMaster: http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

A PC with a GTX 960, 8GB of DDR3 and even an i7-2700K will use less than 400W. You'll be fine.



Please excuse my bad English.

Former gaming PC: i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.

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Got an update on how things went.

Uninstalled the integrated Intel graphics driver. Shut down the PC. The graphics card fit fine. I just had to slide my wireless card down a notch since the graphics card took up two slots. Booted up the PC and installed the latest Nvidia driver for the GTX 960. My son tested Minecraft (I know, I know, not that graphics intensive) and was getting 200-300 fps on unlimited.

I don't have any graphics intensive games yet, but I remembered that back in the winter I got Shadow Complex Remastered for free when Epic had the special offer. Previously, if I tried to play the game it wouldn't even boot up. Now I can not only play it but I can max out the settings. Played a little bit this morning (fun metroidvania style game by the way) and all was smooth as butter.

I'll probably upgrade the CPU at some point just to keep the PC as current as possible to play a larger selection of games.

Gotta say thanks to all of you who helped. I learned a lot about this stuff from you and you made the process no hassle and simple.

Game on!



Author of science fiction and other genres, I write under the pen name Desmond Shepherd. The second season of my series The Permanent Man premieres on November 11, 2014. Pre-order the season premiere The Walls Have Ears on Amazon today!

I'm glad it all went well.

Oh, and I also took advantage of that offer and got Shadow Complex for free. I agree that it's a very good game, and longer than it seems.



Please excuse my bad English.

Former gaming PC: i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.

dreamcast210 said:
Got an update on how things went.

Uninstalled the integrated Intel graphics driver. Shut down the PC. The graphics card fit fine. I just had to slide my wireless card down a notch since the graphics card took up two slots. Booted up the PC and installed the latest Nvidia driver for the GTX 960. My son tested Minecraft (I know, I know, not that graphics intensive) and was getting 200-300 fps on unlimited.

I don't have any graphics intensive games yet, but I remembered that back in the winter I got Shadow Complex Remastered for free when Epic had the special offer. Previously, if I tried to play the game it wouldn't even boot up. Now I can not only play it but I can max out the settings. Played a little bit this morning (fun metroidvania style game by the way) and all was smooth as butter.

I'll probably upgrade the CPU at some point just to keep the PC as current as possible to play a larger selection of games.

Gotta say thanks to all of you who helped. I learned a lot about this stuff from you and you made the process no hassle and simple.

Game on!

Awesome man,

Glad to hear everything went so well with your build. When you are ready for a CPU upgrade just let usknow and we will try to help you find the best part for your build and will offer lot's of advice, especially since the CPU is the most difficult part to replace on a PC. Not saying it is difficult to replace, just the most difficult. 

Enjoy your new system and take advantage of the Nvidia's Geforce Experience app. It helps a lot to optimize game settings based on your PCs architecture so you don't have to fiddle with settings just to get a game to run smooth.



Raistline said:
dreamcast210 said:
Got an update on how things went.

Uninstalled the integrated Intel graphics driver. Shut down the PC. The graphics card fit fine. I just had to slide my wireless card down a notch since the graphics card took up two slots. Booted up the PC and installed the latest Nvidia driver for the GTX 960. My son tested Minecraft (I know, I know, not that graphics intensive) and was getting 200-300 fps on unlimited.

I don't have any graphics intensive games yet, but I remembered that back in the winter I got Shadow Complex Remastered for free when Epic had the special offer. Previously, if I tried to play the game it wouldn't even boot up. Now I can not only play it but I can max out the settings. Played a little bit this morning (fun metroidvania style game by the way) and all was smooth as butter.

I'll probably upgrade the CPU at some point just to keep the PC as current as possible to play a larger selection of games.

Gotta say thanks to all of you who helped. I learned a lot about this stuff from you and you made the process no hassle and simple.

Game on!

Awesome man,

Glad to hear everything went so well with your build. When you are ready for a CPU upgrade just let usknow and we will try to help you find the best part for your build and will offer lot's of advice, especially since the CPU is the most difficult part to replace on a PC. Not saying it is difficult to replace, just the most difficult. 

Enjoy your new system and take advantage of the Nvidia's Geforce Experience app. It helps a lot to optimize game settings based on your PCs architecture so you don't have to fiddle with settings just to get a game to run smooth.

I've done some research based on my PC and found that the i5-2500 is probably my best bet for a CPU. I've even watched some YouTube videos about how to replace it. Right now, I'm not running any games that require it. But I know at some point in the future I will. So I'll probably revisit this thread when the time comes for help.

Thanks again!



Author of science fiction and other genres, I write under the pen name Desmond Shepherd. The second season of my series The Permanent Man premieres on November 11, 2014. Pre-order the season premiere The Walls Have Ears on Amazon today!

dreamcast210 said:
Got an update on how things went.

Uninstalled the integrated Intel graphics driver. Shut down the PC. The graphics card fit fine. I just had to slide my wireless card down a notch since the graphics card took up two slots. Booted up the PC and installed the latest Nvidia driver for the GTX 960. My son tested Minecraft (I know, I know, not that graphics intensive) and was getting 200-300 fps on unlimited.

I don't have any graphics intensive games yet, but I remembered that back in the winter I got Shadow Complex Remastered for free when Epic had the special offer. Previously, if I tried to play the game it wouldn't even boot up. Now I can not only play it but I can max out the settings. Played a little bit this morning (fun metroidvania style game by the way) and all was smooth as butter.

I'll probably upgrade the CPU at some point just to keep the PC as current as possible to play a larger selection of games.

Gotta say thanks to all of you who helped. I learned a lot about this stuff from you and you made the process no hassle and simple.

Game on!

You didn't need to do that step,okay you did need to shut down the PC but the onboard would normally just disable itself when you have a PCI-E card inserted, unless the bios for your PC are setup very strangely, it won't be an issue though the only thing is if you ever run into issues with the graphics card and need to remove it you will probably see a low res 800x600 display on the onboard with the card removed now, no real issue if you have a net connection it will most likely just reget the driver just fine if you do need it again.

Fantastic news overall though, as for having unlimited fps (vsync turned off) know that runs the graphics card at 100% to draw as many frames as it possibly can, even though only a fraction of them will get displayed on your screen, I would normally just advise leaving Vsync on and your PC will run cooler because of it and you'll be able to have Minecraft running in a window and easily tab to other things like videos or so because Minecraft/or any game wont be trying to just use 100% of the gpu for the sake of it.

Your idea about the cpu is perfect btw, if you don't need to change out your guy for what you're doing, then don't, changing the CPU is tougher than slotting in a Graphics card to a port which is empty, it means having to remove the heatsink, remove the cpu which is in there and get the new one in there, termal pasted up and get your heatsink locked back on perfectly for it to work, like I said if everything is working perfectly for you now, don't put yourself through the headwreck for nothing.

If you are new to PC gaming btw could I recommend checking out the humble bundle site, every week or two they have a bundle of games you can pick up on the cheap, it works by donating an amount of cash to get the bundles, there is normally 3 levels of payment $1 gets you the steam keys for the base level games, paying 1c above the average paid amount gets you access to a bunch more titles and then they normally add a "give this amount to get X" which unlocks all tiers of the games they offer, really if you very few titles this is a great way to start to pick up a few good older games, often indie gems for a Steam account for yourself.

https://www.humblebundle.com/pc-android-14-bundle

https://www.humblebundle.com/store?hmb_campaign=DRMFreedomSale2016&hmb_source=banner&hmb_medium=banner

Also if you haven't already done so you should get yourself steam installed on that PC, they have a ton of good free to play titles there, even the only shooter of Team Fortress 2 is free to play now and a great little competitive classic team based shooter to enjoy.

http://store.steampowered.com/

Also of course there is blizzards gaming platform in Battle.net which has trials of a lot of games but does feature Heroes of the Storm and Hearthstone which are free to play

http://eu.battle.net/en/

And lastly from me you have probably heard of (for better or worse) League of Legends, one of the largest free to play titles out there, can be enjoyable but depending on the age of your Son I would be really slow to let him play this as the community can be very very mean (toxic) to others, especially new players and new people to online play could be very badly influenced by this poor spirited community.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/

 

Just if you are installing these platforms know that they will all offer you the options to run these on startup (it's the default for most of them) so while going through the installer you'll wanna untick boxes that offer you that service since you're working off 4gb of ram you really don't want a lot of programs in the background which you're not currently using. (if you already have a bunch of things which open on start up can give me a shout to go through how to remove some of the unneeded ones from start up, it's an easy process to free up some memory)



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