shikamaru317 said:
It's strange, the specs that Digital Foundry got for Neo don't match with anything. Same stream processor and compute units count as the 480, but lower tflops (4.1 for Neo compared to 5+ for the 480). So either the specs sheet Digital Foundry got was wrong, or it is Polaris 10 but underclocked for some reason. |
maybe they didnt except to hit 5tf who ever leaked it
shikamaru317 said:
Yeah, I always found the whole shrinking thing with consoles baffling. Xbox One runs cool and quiet because the case is so big. I hope that Scorpio has a similar sized case as the original Xbox One with a similar cooling solution (100+mm). |
I doubt it. Don't forget it's marketed to console people. Die shrink = everything smaller. If the box isn't smaller then people will ask what good a shrink is^^
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Ruler said:
maybe they didnt except to hit 5tf who ever leaked it |
See previous posts.
Low clock because APU and shitty cooling.
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vivster said:
See previous posts. Low clock because APU and shitty cooling. |
clock doesnt have anything to say about power
I also would like to remind people that FLOPS are not a very good or accurate measure for gaming performance. FLOPS on consoles vs PC are in no way comparable. Even less between Nvidia and AMD.
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| vivster said: Wonder when they'll finally wise up and stop trying to cram their hardware into tiny boxes with ridiculously pitiful cooling. Just use a slightly bigger case, so you can install a proper heatsink with a slow and quiet 12cm fan and you can overclock the shit out of your APU. As if anyone gives a shit if their console is a few cm thicker and a pound heavier. They need to realize that this isn't 1990 and that hardware now needs heatsinks and active cooling. |
I imagine you could fit some pretty beef tech in a case the size of the original Xbox these days. That thing was huge, but crazy powerful in its day.
Ruler said:
clock doesnt have anything to say about power |
Wait what? Please tell me you're joking.
You do know that clock is a factor in the FLOPS calculation and that one reason why APUs are so weak is that they run lower clock speeds than dedicated GPUs? Of course you don't.
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vivster said:
You are correct. Forgot that it was released with that very low base clock of 1000MHz. I usually only see the custom models that start at 1100MHz and go up to 1300MHz at boost. 5.6 TFLOPS is still not even close to high end though. |
Hmm... It's actually starting to look more enticing the more I think of it. Such a GPU for $199? Actually a good deal considering my needs, but I wonder how well it's gonna overclock. My guess is the Founder's Edition ( 
) is going to be a poor overclocker, just like the nVidia ones, but I hope Sapphire releases a custom card that has more than just 6 pin power. I mean, nVidia Founder's Edition cards use 8 pins and suffer from lack of power, but custom ones use up to 6+8+8, which has to result in totally different performance when OCed. I hope for 8+6 pin for custom RX 480, so that after OC it can almost compete with stock 1070 (thus being on par with a Titan X... A freaking Titan X for around $199!!!!).
Granted, we've seen the cards have 4/8 GB. I have no idea what a 4 GB card is supposed to achieve in the market, but I'm affraid it may be the only version that reaches the $199 mark :-/ Hope that's not the case, but that's a possibility...
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vivster said:
Wait what? Please tell me you're joking.
You do know that clock is a factor in the FLOPS calculation and that one reason why APUs are so weak is that they run lower clock speeds than dedicated GPUs? Of course you don't. |
Xbox One has also more Mhz still its weaker than the PS4, there are various examples with different GPUs from Nvidia and Amd
Ruler said:
Xbox One has also more Mhz still its weaker than the PS4, there are various examples with different GPUs from Nvidia and Amd |
You need to multiply the Compute Units by the frequency to reach the final performance. The reason why the PS4 has better performance is because they have quite a few more Compute Units than the Xbox 1 (btw, because of their choices in terms of RAM compared to Sony's GDDR5, leaving more space on the APU for CUs)
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