WolfpackN64 said:
Nuvendil said:
Buddy, the payroll hike would come to a minimum of over 10 billion dollars more per year. 3.9 falling directly on McDonalds, 9 billion spread across the franchises. There's no way whatsoever that the pay of executives comes out the anywhere near that. As for investors, that's a whole other issue entirely.
Your second assertion is flawed on it's face. Low pay is part of how Walmart and McDonalds and such maintain their low prices. Yes, there would be some increased consumption but that's not going to be evenly spread across all industries nor predictable or stable. You cannot sit there and tell me that tens of billions of dollars in payroll costs being added to the economy will not effect prices.
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Isn't it the workers right to be the ones to get the most profit out of the company they produce for? McDonalds is a company with a revenue of 25 billion dollars a year, they can shoulder that cost.
Yes, Mc Donalds and Walmart operate low prices (the same goes for Amazon's operating costs). However, one can ask if this is longer warranted when the lower prices constitute low wages and in case of McDonalds, low quality. The rise in minimum wage would cushion an eventual rise in prices. And if that means the quality of the franchises an improve, why shouldn't one do it.
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OK, we are just retreading ground I covered a couple pages ago but I'll go on :P
When you go and do all the math, the increase would reduce their net income - their bottom line -to less than $600 million dollars by the best. Yeah they make 25 billion, but that all but a bit over 7 billion gets eaten up in costs of operations and payroll right now. McDonalds is a massive company, running that is exorbitantly expensive: utilities, maintenance, cost of supplies, construction, shipping, and of course payroll. Taxes and interests take that to around 4.5 billion. That's the companies bottom line. The hike in payroll costs would bring that to less than 600 million. And that's before raising pay even further for shift managers and such. Or factoring in the impact from closing franchises which would be imminent. The company could easily go into the red with the current setup.
And again, employees DO eat up the majority of payroll by a country mile. The total disclosed executive compensation for McDonalds is currently 24.36 million. This total factors in the CEO, CFO, and the three other most compensated officers. Like I said, the executive level IS highly paid, but it is ultimately insignificant compared to the total payroll costs and the proposed payroll hike.
And as I also said in that previous post, McDonalds could survive but it would require enormous changes to the company, many unpleasant. Jobs would be cut, franchises shut down, prices would be raised, etc. It would be exorbitantly costly and could indeed destroy the company depending on how fast the payroll hike hit. Cause it's not just the changes, it's maintaining their consumer base through the transition. But yes, if the change came slowly enough it would be entirely possible for them to survive. But it wouldn't be fun, thousands of franchises currently doing middling business would become unsustainable quickly.
This isn't to say I think minimum wage is fine, it is too low. This is to say that a FEDERAL minimum of $15 is too high and that people really don't do the research and thinking to realize how huge this is for these companies. In some areas (California, for example) $15 makes absolute sense. Cost of living is high enough and the economy strong enough to support it. South Carolina? North Carolina? Texas? Probably something around $10 to $12 is better. The US is enormous with hundreds of millions of people, different taxes in different states, etc. Regions vary in economic strength and cost of living. The federal minimum wage has to take that into account.
And all this is to say nothing of the absolute havok a $15 federal minimum wage would bring on the small business sector.