Do we really need them as competition or do we just want those two done away with?. I hear that we need competition for the other side but the crowd on the other side say with Red Team hardly go with green and vice versa.

I want AMD to give me what Nvidia are going to give me but better if not way cheaper and I honestly don't expect that to happen as much because it's been a long time since AMD has done such a thing, even when it does it would then be natural to want Nvidia to do the same.

I don't know how much of a bigger impact they are going to make on consoles in the future though.

lol that is what i was gonna say.

best part of the article was the guy who designed the athlon xp designed zen.

wtf was he doing in the last 15  years lol? did AMD think they bench the guy cause he reached an achievment and wanted a rookie to make something else?

He left AMD in 1999, then in 2008 he joined Apple (they bought the Co. he was working on) until 2012 when he came back to AMD until last year, when he left (after the design of Zen and its successor Zen+ was completed) to join Tesla.

OT. Bulldozer was also suposed to be great, and we know how it ended up being. And while AMD seems to be better at Marketing as of late, I'll wait until we get actual reviews to take conclusions.

I hope this is true, I am so disappointed in the i7 6950X.I always thought paying $1k for a CPU was a total rip-off, but my stance kind of softened after experiencing the performance of the 5960X on my everyday tasks and CAD rendering.
After seeing the 6950X's price I was expecting some BIG performance gains...I was wrong, despite increasing the price for the X series from $1050 to $ 1750 we still only get these minor performance increases of which we are now accustomed to getting from Intel, plus 2 more measly cores.

I genuinely hope AMD becomes competitive on the CPU front again, 'cause Intel is in dire need of some competition.

I am more optimistic this time, go Jim Keller!