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And that is why all the constant talk about more poweeeeer is ridiculous.



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Ljink96 said:
As amazing as UC4 is technically, the game isn't pushing the PS4 to its limits. New games will surpass it indefinitely. Final Fantasy VI was released in 1994 and was thought to be a modern marvel in terms of graphics but then there was Donkey Kong Country 2 released in 95 or even DKC3 which looked like a valid 2D PS1 game. The more time you spend developing on a console the more you understand about it, and ultimately you'll find out tricks to push it to its limits.

Comparing modern game development to game development on the SNES is flawed. For starters, most games on the SNES were written in assembly, which is much closer to the hardware than what is accomplished today. This meant the benefits of reducing x amount of memory usage, and y amount of processing usage could be more easily realized. All you have to do is just write better assembly code that is less wasteful. It is different today in that it is more a matter of technique and/or choice of algorithms that improves the final product. Most improvements occur because there is some type of new programming trick used to achieve the same or a better result, with less power usage. The time and investment into software R&D to find these new techniques has to be quite large for it to happen. That is why only 1st party developers really have the incentive to do it or achieve it. So if there are any advancements, it is less about the console's hardware and more about programming techniques. 



PlayStation 2 and 3 were run on the emotion chip and the cell chip both proprietary. Developers had to learn how to use these chips. The result was a steady increase in graphical Fidelity throughout the generation. The PS4 on the other hand is using a standard PC architecture. We will not see the same graphical Arc this gen.



Ruler said:

So you havent played ps4 exclusives in general the last couple of years onionberry? Its a pretty known fact by now that games like Driveclub, Bloodborne, Infamious, Knack and the order 1886 look better than most AAA games on PC

Are you trying to suggest that the PS4 is more powerful than the PC? Because ALL of those games could run on PC. And look better, in-fact, one day they will, thanks to Emulation. All your games are belong to us.

You should try playing a high-end PC game in Eyefinity/Surround Vision or on a 5k resolution monitor some time, you might just start eating a hat if you think a console could hold a candle to a PC.




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Ruler said:

So you havent played ps4 exclusives in general the last couple of years onionberry? Its a pretty known fact by now that games like Driveclub, Bloodborne, Infamious, Knack and the order 1886 look better than most AAA games on PC

Yeh, the PS4 runs circles around my new retro gaming PC with Pentium 4 and Geforce 6800.



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m0ney said:
Ruler said:

So you havent played ps4 exclusives in general the last couple of years onionberry? Its a pretty known fact by now that games like Driveclub, Bloodborne, Infamious, Knack and the order 1886 look better than most AAA games on PC

Yeh, the PS4 runs circles around my new retro gaming PC with Pentium 4 and Geforce 6800.

and how many games on your pc look better than the games he mentioned?



Sprash said:
m0ney said:

Yeh, the PS4 runs circles around my new retro gaming PC with Pentium 4 and Geforce 6800.

and how many games on your pc look better than the games he mentioned?

What do you mean? /Justin Bieber/



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Its powerful but CPU is definitely bottleneck for better visuals and performance.



m0ney said:
Sprash said:

and how many games on your pc look better than the games he mentioned?

What do you mean? /Justin Bieber/

So he is right? awesome can't wait till I get my ps4, no need to get a pc anymore^^ #freethebieber



Naughty dog has already said that they will get more out of this PS4. Hardware is complicated guys. Even if the hardware uses well known architecture there are still a lot of intricacies that aren't immediatly noticed by developers.