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Did we do the right thing getting PS4 systems?

Yes, and welcome to Greatness. 225 78.67%
 
No, you will never be happy with Sony. 24 8.39%
 
Both of you betrayed Nintendo, shame on you. 37 12.94%
 
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onionberry said:

so? lmao i don't wanna be a dick but i have one too and im a nintendo fangirl.... SO!? he's just being a crybaby, people need to wait and that's it.

Very much this.

Between the WiiU, 3DS, and NX software development, Nintendo is currently stretched thin with respect to software output. Sony and Microsoft aren't suffering this as they're both limited to just one respective platform thus I am optimistic for the NX release.



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SJReiter said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:

Yes, the Wii U is dead, and it's all Nintendo's mistakes that killed it. You can't blame it on anyone else.

I was arguing against the notion that Nintendo killed the Wii U by annoucing the NX launch in March 2017. 

The other part is sort of a chicken or egg argument. Did the marketplace kill the Wii U by not buying it or did Nintendo kill it by making a product the marketplace didn't want in the first place? Difficult to say really.

Ah, the chicken or the egg argument. As a company it's Nintendo's job to provide a product the consumer wants. If the consumer is on the fence about buying the product, it's Nintendo's job to create marketing that convinces the consumer to purchase it. Then Nintendo, as a company, has to support that product.

Nintendo failed to do any of these things.



   

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SJReiter said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:

Yes, the Wii U is dead, and it's all Nintendo's mistakes that killed it. You can't blame it on anyone else.

I was arguing against the notion that Nintendo killed the Wii U by annoucing the NX launch in March 2017. 

The other part is sort of a chicken or egg argument. Did the marketplace kill the Wii U by not buying it or did Nintendo kill it by making a product the marketplace didn't want in the first place? Difficult to say really.

I'm pretty convinced that the consumer base killed the Wii U with its general indifference to the platform. 

From Nintendo's perspective, they had to have a follow up product to the Wii. Sales were well off peak by the time the Wii U was announced and nothing could change that. Similarly, sales of the Wii U are well off peak (reference holiday '15 sales) and announcing the NX can't be the cause of a sales trend that was already well on its way.

With the Wii U, in attempting to repeat the success of the Wii by making a product that essentially aped its predecessor by calling it the Wii U and even designing the console as a slight evolution of the previous Wii, didn't do anything to distinguish itself as its own platform. And no, adding a tablet style display to the controller didn't cut it in this respect. 

Nintendo gave consumers Wii U versions of its existing IPs. That was a given. 

The general market, which includes the majority of the Wii consumers weren't interested in another console. The chunk of those who were apparently bought a PS4 instead just going off of sales figures three years in. 



KLAMarine said:
onionberry said:

so? lmao i don't wanna be a dick but i have one too and im a nintendo fangirl.... SO!? he's just being a crybaby, people need to wait and that's it.

Very much this.

Between the WiiU, 3DS, and NX software development, Nintendo is currently stretched thin with respect to software output. Sony and Microsoft aren't suffering this as they're both limited to just one respective platform thus I am optimistic for the NX release.

If Nintendo does what everyone speculates, and makes a hybrid system that is a portable and home console simultaneously or two separate systems that use the same software, then that should solve the problem of software droughts.

The new president of Nintendo says they will be speeding up game development so there won't be software droughts. But does this mean Nintendo is going to start making fast production shovel ware games?  There is quantity vs quality to contend with.



   

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Anyway, I'm not sure why it's considered relevant that a dyed in the wool Nintendo fan bought a PS4.

Did he write a manifesto swearing off his allegiance to a Nintendo Corporation that has utterly failed him as a consumer? Did he declare he's "outgrown" Nintendo and has moved on to a Playstation lifestyle?

Maybe he should have just waited for the NX seeing as how it's due in less than a year.

Or maybe he just bought a second console in one generation, which is pretty normal for a video game fan.



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SonytendoAmiibo said:
onionberry said:

i own a pc,ps4 and wii u. if there's nothing on the wii u i play my pc or my ps4, but i don't cry about it.

Seeing as we are both Nintendo fans, what PS4 games do you recommend I play on the Sony system? 

And yes, I am crying about the situation Nintendo has gotten themselves into. It would break my heart to see Nintendo fail again in the console space. But I need games to play right now, not next year.

i'm crying because of zelda, that's the only reason, but I think that people jump to conclusions too quickly. some people say NX doomed and we don't even know about the system, like, nothing.

currently i have infamous second son, bloodborne, tales of zestiria, the nathan drake collection, the last of us, batman AK, Until Dawn and Gravity Rush Remastered. great games imo



greenmedic88 said:
Anyway, I'm not sure why it's considered relevant that a dyed in the wool Nintendo fan bought a PS4.

Did he write a manifesto swearing off his allegiance to a Nintendo Corporation that has utterly failed him as a consumer? Did he declare he's "outgrown" Nintendo and has moved on to a Playstation lifestyle?

Maybe he should have just waited for the NX seeing as how it's due in less than a year.

Or maybe he just bought a second console in one generation, which is pretty normal for a video game fan.

It's relevant because Nintendo's fanbase is shrinking and once these Nintendo fans get another company's system and see the huge amount of games to choose from, next time around they skip the Nintendo system altogether.



   

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onionberry said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:

Seeing as we are both Nintendo fans, what PS4 games do you recommend I play on the Sony system? 

And yes, I am crying about the situation Nintendo has gotten themselves into. It would break my heart to see Nintendo fail again in the console space. But I need games to play right now, not next year.

i'm crying because of zelda, that's the only reason, but I think that people jump to conclusions too quickly. some people say NX doomed and we don't even know about the system, like, nothing.

currently i have infamous second son, bloodborne, tales of zestiria, the nathan drake collection, the last of us, batman AK, Until Dawn and Gravity Rush Remastered. great games imo

That's the one legitimate gripe I can see from Nintendo fans. There really hasn't been a proper Zelda game for the Wii U, and it's looking like we might be seeing another Twilight Princess situation. 

The thing is, Zelda fans are a smaller niche within the Nintendo fandom. That's just a fact. So I don't think this is considered to be some sort of huge betrayal to Wii U consumers. Unless of course the next Zelda is an NX exclusive which would be plain bad business for Nintendo. 



onionberry said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:

Seeing as we are both Nintendo fans, what PS4 games do you recommend I play on the Sony system? 

And yes, I am crying about the situation Nintendo has gotten themselves into. It would break my heart to see Nintendo fail again in the console space. But I need games to play right now, not next year.

i'm crying because of zelda, that's the only reason, but I think that people jump to conclusions too quickly. some people say NX doomed and we don't even know about the system, like, nothing.

currently i have infamous second son, bloodborne, tales of zestiria, the nathan drake collection, the last of us, batman AK, Until Dawn and Gravity Rush Remastered. great games imo

I loved Gravity Rush Remastered. Can't wait for the new one. Have not tried any of the other games you mentioned but I will check them out. Thanks.



   

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SonytendoAmiibo said:
greenmedic88 said:
Anyway, I'm not sure why it's considered relevant that a dyed in the wool Nintendo fan bought a PS4.

Did he write a manifesto swearing off his allegiance to a Nintendo Corporation that has utterly failed him as a consumer? Did he declare he's "outgrown" Nintendo and has moved on to a Playstation lifestyle?

Maybe he should have just waited for the NX seeing as how it's due in less than a year.

Or maybe he just bought a second console in one generation, which is pretty normal for a video game fan.

It's relevant because Nintendo's fanbase is shrinking and once these Nintendo fans get another company's system and see the huge amount of games to choose from, next time around they skip the Nintendo system altogether.

No, come on. 

Skipping the next Nintendo system means skipping out on the real reason anyone should be buying Nintendo hardware to begin with: Nintendo IPs. 

Some gamers will grow out of them. Some may go back into them when they have kids. Regardless, there's always going to be a fanbase for Nintendo IP games sure as there will always be a market for Disney animated films. 

If anyone is still buying Nintendo consoles for the fantastic 3rd party support after the Wii, I don't know what to tell them. Adjust your expectations in line with reality?

I'm not trying to be mean here, but there is such a thing as making informed decisions as a consumer based upon the volumes of information available.