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| Mint-endo Chocolate Chip | 18 | 7.35% | |
| Sonyberry | 157 | 64.08% | |
| Microsoft serve | 17 | 6.94% | |
| Cookies and Dreamcast | 19 | 7.76% | |
| Vanilla | 16 | 6.53% | |
| Organic and pun-free, thank you | 18 | 7.35% | |
| Total: | 245 | ||
Uncharted 4 what a beast!!
Aura7541 said:
What are Sony's expectations and what are your citations? |
His citations are quoted from his ass.
Mazzy said:
Sony's expectations, not my own. |
Oh, so you were privy to Sony's corporate expectations for the game? (And no, a source showing that they spent a lot on advertising does not correlate precisely with expectations). I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, man, but your posts display the sheer stubbornness of a possible troll. Is it possible, maybe, that you jumped the gun a bit with your declaration of the game as a disappointment sales wise? I'm wrong all the time, there's nothing shameful about it.
RJ_Sizzle said:
His citations are quoted from his ass. |
I was wondering why he's taking so long 
For someone to declare something nebulous so confidently, I would've expected him to have his sources ready on the double.
| Mazzy said: Bit confused on why people are surprised about Uncharted 4 charting for so many days straight. It doesn't tell us anything, it could be a bomba or a smashing hit and would have charted for this long regardless, especially as an exclusive (so not spread out across platforms) in a slow month like this, and at a 20% discount no less. In context, I think Uncharted 4 could be regarded as a bomb, not compared to the rest of the series, but in the context of how Sony tried to make it stand up against giants and it failed. |
2.7 million first week is a fail now? Which of these giant defeated Uncharted?
| Aura7541 said: What are Sony's expectations and what are your citations? |
No one knows except Sony. We do know it's PlayStation's largest ever marketing campaign, the largest team size (nearly doubling from Uncharted 3)*, had developmental issues and the story was completely rewritten, and it has been the focal point of E3, PGW, PSX, and so on for years now.
I just think it's reasonable to suggest as the developmental and marketing budget swells, that expectations for sales increase.
*I recalled seeing an article about how Uncharted 4's team had doubled since Uncharted 4, however I could not find this article. All I could find was they were at ~170 employees as of Feb. 2012 and are at ~300 employees on LinkedIn currently. Nearly a doubling in size since Uncharted 3.
Mazzy said:
No one knows except Sony. We do know it's PlayStation's largest ever marketing campaign, the largest team size (nearly doubling from Uncharted 3)*, developmental issues and the story was completely rewritten, and it has been the focal point of E3, PGW, PSX, and so on for years now. I just think it's reasonable to suggest as the developmental and marketing budget swells, that expectations for sales increase. *I recalled seeing an article about how Uncharted 4's team had doubled since Uncharted 4, however I could not find this article. All I could find was they were at ~170 employees as of Feb. 2012 (link) and at ~300 employees on LinkedIn currently. Nearly a doubling in size since Uncharted 3. |
So you have nothing in regards to Sony's sales expectations. Gotcha.
Mazzy said:
No one knows except Sony. We do know it's PlayStation's largest ever marketing campaign, the largest team size (nearly doubling from Uncharted 3)*, had developmental issues and the story was completely rewritten, and it has been the focal point of E3, PGW, PSX, and so on for years now. I just think it's reasonable to suggest as the developmental and marketing budget swells, that expectations for sales increase. *I recalled seeing an article about how Uncharted 4's team had doubled since Uncharted 4, however I could not find this article. All I could find was they were at ~170 employees as of Feb. 2012 and are at ~300 employees on LinkedIn currently. Nearly a doubling in size since Uncharted 3. |
Best comment you made, thus far. Unfortunately, as you said, no one knows except Sony. So unless we have a good idea of what's the total budget (development + marketing), we can't make such declarative conclusions one way or another.
Mazzy said:
*I recalled seeing an article about how Uncharted 4's team had doubled since Uncharted 4, however I could not find this article. All I could find was they were at ~170 employees as of Feb. 2012 and are at ~300 employees on LinkedIn currently. Nearly a doubling in size since Uncharted 3. |
Yes might have something to do with the second team expansion.
RJ_Sizzle said:
So you have nothing in regards to Sony's sales expectations. Gotcha. |
Are you purposely being daft? The marketing budget is the largest ever, the dev team doubles, and there was ridiculous amounts of outsourcing as well, and you believe that expectations don't increase to account for this? What the actual numbers are? We don't know, Sony doesn't release internal expectations to the public.
Just look at something like Gears of War vs. Gears of War 3. The former had a budget 4-5x that of the latter (12m USD vs 48-60m USD) despite being similar in size and scope. This is how AAA blockbuster gaming works, developmental and marketing budgets are swelling. Uncharted 4 is practically the poster child of this being bigger and better than all previous games; delayed mutliple times, ten times the playable size, story rewritten, team size nearly doubled, the largest marketing effort in PlayStation history... And you think that doesn't have significant ramifications on internal expectations?
Get a grip.
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