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FYI Asians only make up 5.6% of the U.S. population with African American being above 13% and Latinos making up 17%. Yeah Asians are the GOOD minorities because they don't have the numbers to scare white America. Imagine if they grew larger than you would have people like trump attacking them and terms like "Asian on Asian crime" or other stereotypes to demonize them. They are easier to control and monitor and have no cultural influence so even when they are victims their voices go unheard due to their low number.



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johnsobas said:
People are probably gonna call it racist, but all cultures are not the equal. Some encourage success more than others. Asian cultures are far better at this than pretty much anywhere else. I will tell you that we mostly just have 2 main immigrant communities where i live vietnamese and Somali, and it's night and day. They both came here as refugees, but the Somali culture did not help them toward success. The Somali community came here and immediately started taking advantage of the social programs here. They have not adapted to the language or culture very well at all, and have created little ghettos in the city. We have had a number of them arrested for trying to join ISIS.

Dude what the hell are you on about? Somalis are recent immigrants who just arrived in said countries. Majority of them could not speak English and as such had to gain help from the government. My family were recent immigrants to the UK and at first they needed help but now own various businesses, properties and all the kids are Uni educated (imperial college etc). Also the "ghettos" as you call it are a product of the government who settle them in those areas.

Now hop on your bike and do one. 



Fei-Hung said:
johnsobas said:
People are probably gonna call it racist, but all cultures are not the equal. Some encourage success more than others. Asian cultures are far better at this than pretty much anywhere else. I will tell you that we mostly just have 2 main immigrant communities where i live vietnamese and Somali, and it's night and day. They both came here as refugees, but the Somali culture did not help them toward success. The Somali community came here and immediately started taking advantage of the social programs here. They have not adapted to the language or culture very well at all, and have created little ghettos in the city. We have had a number of them arrested for trying to join ISIS.

 

I agree to an extent that the Somali community do create their own ghetto, but where I'm from, the reason behind this and any immigrant community creating their ghetto is, the local authority moving them into that ghetto. 

 

The area was known for drug dealing and prostitution so the city council moved all the Somali families coming in into that ghetto. The area has gone from a no go area to something I like to call little Somalia. There are cafés and social places everywhere and it is always buzzing. 

 

A lot of the Somalians have also set up businesses in the area and around the city. Thankfully non have joined IS and are very vocals against them. 

 

The biggest IS and AlQaeeda supporter was a very vocal white convert who used to preach in the city centre. Muslims kept asking why he hasn't been arrested and in the end (5-6 years later) it turned out the guy was undercover. 

 

^^ This guy gets it



X1Gates said:
johnsobas said:
People are probably gonna call it racist, but all cultures are not the equal. Some encourage success more than others. Asian cultures are far better at this than pretty much anywhere else. I will tell you that we mostly just have 2 main immigrant communities where i live vietnamese and Somali, and it's night and day. They both came here as refugees, but the Somali culture did not help them toward success. The Somali community came here and immediately started taking advantage of the social programs here. They have not adapted to the language or culture very well at all, and have created little ghettos in the city. We have had a number of them arrested for trying to join ISIS.

Dude what the hell are you on about? Somalis are recent immigrants who just arrived in said countries. Majority of them could not speak English and as such had to gain help from the government. My family were recent immigrants to the UK and at first they needed help but now own various businesses, properties and all the kids are Uni educated (imperial college etc). Also the "ghettos" as you call it are a product of the government who settle them in those areas.

Now hop on your bike and do one. 

They aren't that recent, just like many of the other countries.  These are from the mid to late 90s during the Somalian war, and they can live wherever they want to if they get a job and leave the government housing.



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tsogud said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I feel like the world has redefined racism.

Quite frankly, I have great respect for the Asian community in the US. They are responsible for very little crime relative to their population, they are a hard working group, and I think much of it has to do with great parenting. I think the country would be better if more people had the values of that community. If that makes me a racist, oh well.

Race and culture do not equal the same thing though... It's their culture (I'm generalizing here for the sole sake of brevity, see edit) not their race as to the reason of these stereotypes, so comparing races is pointless not to mention wrong and offensive. And it's this stereotypical thinking that has made it even harder for Asians to be anything but those stereotypes and as a consequence, their problems constantly get swept under the rug because on the surface it may look like they are getting on okay but in reality they're not.

And yeah if you think a certain race should be more like another racial group, that's highly offensive and you'd be a rascist.

Edit: And I'd also like to point out and make it clear that Asia is an incredibly big and diverse land with lots of different cultures that house many different norms and attitudes on differing behaviors and topics. So generalizing the entire Asian race, or any race for that matter, is the complete wrong way to go about things.

Unfortunately race and culture do go in hand in hand to a degree. Which is why sterotypes exist but don't always apply.

Bear in mind, I'm just talking about the US in my OP.



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Fei-Hung said:
johnsobas said:
People are probably gonna call it racist, but all cultures are not the equal. Some encourage success more than others. Asian cultures are far better at this than pretty much anywhere else. I will tell you that we mostly just have 2 main immigrant communities where i live vietnamese and Somali, and it's night and day. They both came here as refugees, but the Somali culture did not help them toward success. The Somali community came here and immediately started taking advantage of the social programs here. They have not adapted to the language or culture very well at all, and have created little ghettos in the city. We have had a number of them arrested for trying to join ISIS.

 

I agree to an extent that the Somali community do create their own ghetto, but where I'm from, the reason behind this and any immigrant community creating their ghetto is, the local authority moving them into that ghetto. 

 

The area was known for drug dealing and prostitution so the city council moved all the Somali families coming in into that ghetto. The area has gone from a no go area to something I like to call little Somalia. There are cafés and social places everywhere and it is always buzzing. 

 

A lot of the Somalians have also set up businesses in the area and around the city. Thankfully non have joined IS and are very vocals against them. 

 

The biggest IS and AlQaeeda supporter was a very vocal white convert who used to preach in the city centre. Muslims kept asking why he hasn't been arrested and in the end (5-6 years later) it turned out the guy was undercover. 

 

Are you talking about refugees here or immigrants? Immigrants can stay wherever they want.



AlphaSigma said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I feel like the world has redefined racism.

Quite frankly, I have great respect for the Asian community in the US. They are responsible for very little crime relative to their population, they are a hard working group, and I think much of it has to do with great parenting. I think the country would be better if more people had the values of that community. If that makes me a racist, oh well.

Another ignorant comment. There are Asian gangs, but as I said Asians are a small minority and they do commit crimes within their community, but the media does not plaster it all over the TV like other minorities. YOu must be a fool to think Asians never commit crimes. Really. You may not be a racist but you are ignorant.

Hey, good job putting words in my mouth. Ofcourse I'm going to appear ignorant when you imply things I didn't say.

Relative to their population, they commit less crime than other groups and have somehow become the highest paid ethnic group. Its not just media I'm looking at, I look at statistics.

Your emotions are making you ignorant to what I'm actually saying.



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fatslob-:O said:
I guess it's wrong to emulate positive aspects, yes perish the thought of one group following an example from another ...

No, its just extremely patronising and niave to act as if its as simple as a flick of a switch. Its like asking the abused child to look up to the non absued child and assume thats going to fix their issues. Peoples circumstances are different, and although its the goal for everytone to strive for better, the solution is not whats presented in the rather offensive OP.

A decent point could have been made about econimics and how the asians got a strangle hold over certain markets, but otherwise the OP is simply "Hey depressed person, stop being depressed. Look at all the non depressed people around you".



Sorry but this thread is idiotic.

At least have the decency to acknowledge and compare how different minorities came to be in US and the evironments and laws they were subject to.