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Blu-ray may have won the next-gen movie format war, but some manufacturers are still somewhat leery of increasing their investment in the business and remain unsure of its long-term prospects.

Posted by James Brightman on Monday, March 24, 2008

With HD DVD defeated one might think that electronics manufacturers would get behind the victorious Blu-ray format in full force. That doesn't seem to be the case, however, according to a report in The Korea Times. South Korea, home to major electronics companies such as Samsung and LG, is unlikely to see any accelerated adoption of the new high definition format, the report said.

"Since 2005, we have been releasing Blu-ray products but we are not considering sharpening the business for the time being despite its success in the format war," one Samsung spokesperson said. Samsung said it's still conducting much market research to see what the best strategy would be for their business.

Another Samsung official added, "With the format war ending earlier than expected, Blu-ray manufacturers are unlikely to increase their investment in parts suppliers due to fears over lower profits."

LG seems equally cautious about throwing big support behind Blu-ray at the moment, partially because many believe high definition video on the web will become the dominant "format," making the Blu-ray victory somewhat inconsequential.

"Globally, the potential market for Blu-ray discs is very lucrative. Consumers will spend $1.1 billion on HD discs this year compared with some $300 million last year. However, the business is still in its infancy due to high prices and the rapid penetration of the high-speed Internet," an LG official said, adding, "We will keep our current wait-and-see attitude toward the sector as our company isn't quite sure about the prospects."



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i really don't see this ever being as big as people hyped.....DVD was the last true physical format killer.



 

No big deal. If some companies don't want a piece of the action then Sony and others will dominate the hardware market.



 

 

Blu-ray is the future, downloading over the internet is atleast 10 years away. Most countries do not have the speed to download Hd movies, and most ISP's do not allow users to go and download crazy amount of stuff. I'm using about 50gb's of crap each month and thats not even downloading movies, my limit is 60gb, along with everyone else on the ISP which is one of the biggest ones this country has.



There are enough manufacturers in the mix that Blu-Ray should have no problems. Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, Sharp, Funai, Lite-On, as well as smaller niche companies have already made and/or currently have plans to make new Blu-Ray players.

Hell, HD-DVD was able to do pretty well with just one manufacturer behind it, Toshiba. Their scorched earth pricing policy prevented anyone else from following them. The BDA is smarter about letting prices come down naturally rather than drastically. You have to have the Consumer Electronics manufacturers on your side, which was one of the fundamental flaws with the HD-DVD strategy.



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I don't understand why people keep saying that downloads are the future. I do not live in a big town, most of the worlds population doesn't, and to get speeds that you would need to not only download one real high def movie but multiple is expensive. Also, not everyone is tech savvy enough to stream movies (if that technology even exists) at a high enough speed to the TV for high def let alone burn the movie onto a disc to play in a player. But with HDTVs being pretty much the only thing you can buy now a days and TVs not lasting forever, more and more people will get HDTVs.



cwbys21 said:
I don't understand why people keep saying that downloads are the future. I do not live in a big town, most of the worlds population doesn't, and to get speeds that you would need to not only download one real high def movie but multiple is expensive. Also, not everyone is tech savvy enough to stream movies (if that technology even exists) at a high enough speed to the TV for high def let alone burn the movie onto a disc to play in a player. But with HDTVs being pretty much the only thing you can buy now a days and TVs not lasting forever, more and more people will get HDTVs.

 Well, I live in a big town, top 10 biggest city in the world and I'm getting 6Kp/s via Itune right now, (donwloading my IGN podcast). and I'm paying 40 bucks a month for cable internet with 25 GB quota. I'm having problem loading this page right now.

 

Now, are you going to tell me download is the future? Prove it to me. 



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downloading will not silence Blu-ray sales as internet speeds wont be raised very quickly. Even broadband is only maxing 20mbps for the standard household with Verizon which the standard is at 10mbps with Brighthouse (the two leading ISPs at the moment).

Downloading an entire HD movie with all extras will be about 40 - 50GB or 70GB uncompressed. No matter what it will take forever to download.



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I use netflix and hulu a lot now. Stage 6 was also very good before they shut it down. If netflix comes to a console, I would consider it a big plus.



akuma587 said:
There are enough manufacturers in the mix that Blu-Ray should have no problems. Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, Sharp, Funai, Lite-On, as well as smaller niche companies have already made and/or currently have plans to make new Blu-Ray players.

Hell, HD-DVD was able to do pretty well with just one manufacturer behind it, Toshiba. Their scorched earth pricing policy prevented anyone else from following them. The BDA is smarter about letting prices come down naturally rather than drastically. You have to have the Consumer Electronics manufacturers on your side, which was one of the fundamental flaws with the HD-DVD strategy.

 

Sony recently patented a process to make the BD player smaller and lighter, which will probably bring down manufacturing costs as well.  This is a big break, because they aren't just waiting for the usual diecast of the chips to get smaller.  They are actually trying to find the lowest cost production methods and they are smart enough to let others in on the whole thing.  They are basically selling the use of the patent to other companies so sharp, panny, samsung and the rest will hopefully soon be making $250 players that you can buy at a walmart.  Sony would much rather have BD big, than be the big manufacturer of players.  I would sell that patent to anybody that wanted it, plus, that patent comes at little expense so its all gravy for Sony.   

Contrast that with MS having to pay other companies for the HD movies that they are hawking.  Not sony!  They are a movie companie as well, so they can basically offer the whole thing for cheap while the Xbox fans have to fork over some more $$$ comparatively.  But yeah, i mean why can't Netflix come to the PS3 as well?  I don't see why it couldn't, for consumers that want to rent for $2 rather than buy for $20 it would make sense for sony to make a deal with netflix as well, but FJ probably didn't think that far nowdidja?