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Your opinion on "PS4K"?

It doesnt exist, only fake rumours. 54 21.09%
 
Regular PS4 with 4K Blu-ray player 119 46.48%
 
PS4 with double the power 49 19.14%
 
PS4 with games in 4K and 60fps 12 4.69%
 
Godstation 22 8.59%
 
Total:256
CosmicSex on 01 April 2016
PxlStorm said:
People like to jump to quick conclusions.

*cough* Nx Controller *cough*



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kitler53 on 04 April 2016
DM235 said:
kitler53 said:

being forward/backwards compatible in part means targeting the the old version first and then optimizing forward.  that's how iphone developers work at least.  no one targets the latest and greatest they target the version 2 versions back.  new development will basically target the latest version of the hardware when the project starts or 1 hardware revision back (depending on MSony's release schedule and the development's expected development length) and then when the project completes they'll optimize a bit for any newer hardware versions.

i don't believe anyone will make development targeted for the ps4k for quite a while,.. like 3-6 years.  they will develop for the ps4 and do a bit of optimization for the ps4k when it happens.  a game that released in 2015 will never be optimized to take advantage of any of the newer hardware revisions but a game that released in 2015 will always work on any of the newer hardware revisions.

i think we'll see less skus dedicated to harddrive size like we did last gen.  if the harddrive size is changed it will piggyback on to the interal hardware revisions.  harddrives are upgradable anyways so there isn't really a need to have too many sizes and being that this gen installs are manditory there is no reason to have a tiny (4Gb) drive like last gen  supported.

I get what you are saying.  If Sony builds a robust OS, and handles all of the drivers in the background to handle all of the different hardware revisions (which I am assuming Apple does with iOS), developers can target any particular revision, and then do some regression testing to confirm it still works with the other hardware revisions.

If this happens, would there ever be a PS5?  Personally, I think I would miss that "wow" you get from a totally new generation of hardware if they just decide to do incremental changes for 10 years (and I guess the "wow" would still be there if you compare revision 5 to revision 1, but i think it would be somewhat hidden if you compare revision 5 to revision 4, for example).

A) it's is probably something i should state,.. but of course i'm guessing as much as anyone else is.  the ps4k officially doesn't exist.  but yeah,.. i think that is what sony is doing.  as soon as ps4/xbox was announced as x86 i knew this was more-or-less the route they were going.  i didn't know for sure if they'd do the mid-generation hardware refesh but it was always a possibility.

B) i mean,.. numerically there will be hardware that has a 5 associated with it.  it will only be a half gen up from the 4k though so it won't have the "wow" factor of a new gen.  ..but a lot of people assure me that going from 3 to 4 had now wow factor either and we've hit the point of diminishing returns,.. which i kind of agree with and kind of why i think mid -gen refreshes makes sense now.



kitler53 on 04 April 2016
ZahaDoom said:

 As someone with a older iphone, I can certainly tell you developers DO NOT target the lower devices. Certain apps crash or don't even run, there have been a few apps now that literally are missing functuous vs running on an iPhone 6.

 

 Apple's model might sound great on paper but in reality it's not working. You realize there's a lawsuit against apple currently, for making older models unusable with the latest iOS revisions.

 

 I laughed when Microsoft said they were going to "refresh" or upgrade the Xbone, and I could see them doing it because they went from having the greatest console to not understanding the console market, but I didn't think Sony would entertain such an idea. I guess we will just have to wait for Sony to respond to this "rumor".

i also have an older iphone: 4s.   i can assure you that even when i was on the latest iphone app crashes were common.  there are a lot of bad developers on the app stores.  but the main ones like my bank or netflix or facebook or instagram all target older versions.  of course they don't go back forever,.. i've had a few games i could download due to being too far back now but i'm also like 5 version back now.  that part is the thing i'm most worried about with consoles.  on iphone all software is digital download so it is easy to tell a user they can't use this software due to not meeting the min requirements.   not sure how MSony handles that at retail.