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JEMC said:

I don't know what do you mean, avatars and sigs already have size limits:

  1. Avatars. All Avatars must be safe for work. This means that they should not be overtly sexual (this includes blatantly sexualised poses), grotesque or graphically violent in nature. As a general guide, ask yourself whether you would see something like that in a PG-rated movie. There are children here, and people who are working, and there is no way for them to hide your obscene avatar. If in doubt, don't use it. Avatars must not troll or flame (or violate any of the rules laid out for posts, especially Rules 10, 11, and 13). Whether or not an avatar is appropriate is at the discretion of the moderators. Avatars may therefore be removed by any moderator if they violate these rules. Avatars cannot exceed a 1:2.25 (4:9) width-to-height ratio. Ex. If the width of your avatar is 200 pixels, the height can be no more than 200 x 2.25 = 450 pixels.
  2. Signatures. Signatures must not be excessively long. GIFs contained within signatures must not exceed 1.5MB and 270 pixels in height. Like avatars, signatures must contain no graphic violence or sexual/NSFW content, and must also be free from flashing lights and other discomfort-inducing GIFs. Quotes in signatures are subject to the approval of the quoted member. You must remove a quote of a member from your signature if they ask you to do so. Every rule applying to posts (especially Rules 10, 11, and 13) also applies to signatures. All content in a signature is subject to moderator approval. Failure to comply with these standards will result in moderator action. Signatures may be removed by any moderator if they violate these rules.

I should have explained myself. I know there is a limit to them but I feel it should be even smaller (specially sigs).



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Ka-pi96 said:
COKTOE said:

That's blatantly racist. And you should use the term European, not white.

That's blatantly racist too! There's plenty of black Europeans ya know!

That's even more racist! There's plenty of yellow people here



Anfebious said:
JEMC said:

I don't know what do you mean, avatars and sigs already have size limits:

  1. Avatars. All Avatars must be safe for work. This means that they should not be overtly sexual (this includes blatantly sexualised poses), grotesque or graphically violent in nature. As a general guide, ask yourself whether you would see something like that in a PG-rated movie. There are children here, and people who are working, and there is no way for them to hide your obscene avatar. If in doubt, don't use it. Avatars must not troll or flame (or violate any of the rules laid out for posts, especially Rules 10, 11, and 13). Whether or not an avatar is appropriate is at the discretion of the moderators. Avatars may therefore be removed by any moderator if they violate these rules. Avatars cannot exceed a 1:2.25 (4:9) width-to-height ratio. Ex. If the width of your avatar is 200 pixels, the height can be no more than 200 x 2.25 = 450 pixels.
  2. Signatures. Signatures must not be excessively long. GIFs contained within signatures must not exceed 1.5MB and 270 pixels in height. Like avatars, signatures must contain no graphic violence or sexual/NSFW content, and must also be free from flashing lights and other discomfort-inducing GIFs. Quotes in signatures are subject to the approval of the quoted member. You must remove a quote of a member from your signature if they ask you to do so. Every rule applying to posts (especially Rules 10, 11, and 13) also applies to signatures. All content in a signature is subject to moderator approval. Failure to comply with these standards will result in moderator action. Signatures may be removed by any moderator if they violate these rules.

I should have explained myself. I know there is a limit to them but I feel it should be even smaller (specially sigs).

I remember users being warned because of avatars that were so long that messed with the forum layout.

Sigs... well, I don't want to go into that debate right now.



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spemanig said:

I feel like it shouldn't be like Neogaf at all. Instead, it should be something like NintendoLife's most recent layout. Clean, simple, modern, and with the focus being on the articles primerily, the sales numbers secondarily, and the forums being relegated to its own separate page and accessable through a tiny tab on the main page.

(Goes to check Nintendolife) It looks very good but the main page is too big. I like the Neogaf style because it's simple and short (a bit dated maybe but I rather have simplicty over style). Your idea is nice but I wouldn't focus on stories... Most of the gaming news are the same on every site, so in the end you depend on original content from writers. That's not VG Chartz's specialty (even though we have great articles), this site is known because of the sales dat.

I would take the Neogaf template and place the HW and SW sales on the main page, a bunch of important articles titles (3 or 4) on the right with a news section button and a forum section button! No need to scroll to get to the good stuff. But that's my vision for this site.



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JEMC said:

I remember users being warned because of avatars that were so long that messed with the forum layout.

Sigs... well, I don't want to go into that debate right now.

It's ok, that's just my vision for this site, I just feel posts should occupy a shorter space in the screen.



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JEMC said:

I remember users being warned because of avatars that were so long that messed with the forum layout.

Sigs... well, I don't want to go into that debate right now.

If it were up to me, there wouldn't even be any sigs lol but I imagine that would be very unpopular.



spemanig said:
TruckOSaurus said:

I haven't read the whole thing (I'm at work) but if I develop a mobile version, there's no way I'm adapting was currently here to "make it work". It would be a mess and the end result would be disappointing for the amount of work involved. What I would do would be a brand new layout designed solely with mobile devices in mind.

Well my point in saying adapting what's currently here was actually referring to what parts of the site get represented to what amount and where.

I'm aware that the layout itself would actually be a new one specifically taylored for mobile devices, as is the case with all mobile sites. What I was asking was if the mobile layout would be informed by the forum centric ideals of the current layout, or if it would instead focus on the articles and sales information with the forums accessable in a separate page, the way I believe the actual website should be. The rest of it was detailing my thought on both possibilities, and why I feel like you should go with one rather than the other. But I wasn't actually confused as to whether you planned on making a uniquely mobile layout or not lol.

I don't know what the actual layout of the mobile would be quite yet. I agree that we'd have to prioritize some things over others and forums would certainly not be the main focus as you load the page.



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spemanig said:
JEMC said:

I remember users being warned because of avatars that were so long that messed with the forum layout.

Sigs... well, I don't want to go into that debate right now.

If it were up to me, there wouldn't even be any sigs lol but I imagine that would be very unpopular.

It's quite ironic of you to say that while having a sig .



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Anfebious said:

(Goes to check Nintendolife) It looks very good but the main page is too big. I like the Neogaf style because it's simple and short (a bit dated maybe but I rather have simplicty over style). Your idea is nice but I wouldn't focus on stories... Most of the gaming news are the same on every site, so in the end you depend on original content from writers. That's not VG Chartz's specialty (even though we have great articles), this site is known because of the sales dat.

I would take the Neogaf template and place the HW and SW sales on the main page, a bunch of important articles titles (3 or 4) on the right with a news section button and a forum section button! No need to scroll to get to the good stuff. But that's my vision for this site.

Well I specifically said articles instead of stories because VGC could has a major focus on sales based articles, which other gaming sites do not delve deep into. The reason why articles are important is because sales data is worthless without someone to interpret it. They are also important because, as I've mentioned, the sales can't be updated regularly enough to be interesting on its own. A website that can only update its primary form of content once a week can't stand on its own. Having articles focus on sales, in the best case scanario, will be able to justify the relevance of tracking these sales numbers regularly. It's important because it will garner far more intrest in sales numbers than the sales numbers themselves could ever garner, and that's important for site growth.

I don't think the issue is that the Gaf page is dated, but rather that it's not at all well suited for the kind of content VGC provides. It's made for forums because it is exclusively a forum, so it wouldn't make sence to have that format for sales and articles. Sales numbers can't be updated frequently enough to merit primary space on the site, and if the front page is only articles and sales anyway, that's like 40% of the screen if it's given secondary screen space. That the same as the forum tab + the VGCBuddy combined. So it's not like it wouldn't get a very noticable amount of focus. I just think that you refresh the page everyday, and the primary focus of the site isn't changing, or is confusing to garner like it is now, that's death for the site.

I think it needs to be big because if the main focus is the sales, and the sales only update once a week, the site won't get as many hits. If the article get big headers and a lot of screen space, they'll get noticed, and they'll get more clicks, and the site will hopefully get more revenue that way, and definitely more traffic.

If it were me, It'd look a bit like this

EDIT: Okay clearly I can't accurately articulate this through text art.