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GribbleGrunger said:
jason1637 said:

Or a. Slim for $250

What I'm saying is this Christmas  we'll find out how serious MS are about the XB1.

I hope MS has a slim version of XBox One ready before christmas.

Rumors saying the PS 4.5 will be out around November, and that the normal PS4 will get a price cut (299$ PS4?).

MS will be forced to do a 250$ Xbox One.... but we ve seen them being 50$ cheaper than PS4 and it not really showing much gain.

 

PS4,5 (400$?)  + PS VR + PS4 (299$) and the games lineup playstation has this year.

 

MS will need a Xbox One slim, to stay competitive, and a 250$ price point.



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GribbleGrunger said:
jason1637 said:

Or a. Slim for $250

What I'm saying is this Christmas  we'll find out how serious MS are about the XB1.

Also e3



Btw Nintendo might have something to worry abput with the ps4.5. If the ps4.5 is more powerful than the NX they might be in trouble



jason1637 said:
Btw Nintendo might have something to worry abput with the ps4.5. If the ps4.5 is more powerful than the NX they might be in trouble

PS 4.5 + PS VR + PS4 (299$ ?).

No one is going to have a fun time going up against that, neither Xbox or NX.



jason1637 said:

Also e3

E3 is the mouth, Their Christmas strategy is putting their money where their mouth is.



 

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jason1637 said:
Swordmasterman said:

Last year when tey said that Sony, had not big Exclusives, it sold 18 Millions of units, if it have 12% YOY this year already surpass 20 Millions, and do you really think that 2015 was PS4'S Peak ?, and we are on This chart, you saw in the last few days how Popular the Playstation VR Is, it will indeed move sales, and I'm sure that Playstation VR, alone would be more than enought to push 12% YOY Growth for Playstation 4.

"Final Fantasy is Only a Big System Seller in Japan" How much was the difference between Final Fantasy Type-0 HD for PS4 ?, Type-0 gave a Demo of Final Fantasy XV, for free when you purchased it, but the truth was that Type-0 was a Bonus, and Final Fantasy XV'S Demo the true purchase, on USA, was 5-6 to 1 In favor of the Playstation 4 version, against the Xbox One's Version.

Final Fantasy, is a Worldwide Big System seller, and because in the last 20 Years was a Sony Exclusive game, the Majority of the Fan-base is on Sony's Console, the Xbox's Final Fantasy Fanbase is close to nothing, and a Game, that in his Lowest Selling Main-entry, sold 1.44 Millions on Japan First Week, this means that the Game is a Huge system seller despite having short legs, the game Push a lot of Hardware and Software.

Lets compare to Halo, the Last Halo, sold over 940-980 Thousands First week on USA, against the Lowest Selling Final Fantasy's First Week, it was 1.44 Millions.

Final Fantasy XV, can make the PS4 Sell in 1 week in the same level as of the Launching of the Console, or even more (on Japan), is a Huge Seller.

Again, Dragon Quest, is a little more Popular in Japan than Final Fantasy, and it sold over 65 Millions of units, with nearly the Same number of Main entries, this means that Final Fantasy, must have sold over 55-60 Millions on Japan, but the Total of the Series is 110 Millions, so it sold over 50 Millions Overseas, And you say that is just a System Seller on Japan ?, Dragon Quest, nearly a Japan-only franchise because Enix, before became Square Enix, aways made the Localization for the Western Harder, while Square Soft, since Final Fantasy 3, Saw a potential in the West, and they have invested in the West, if they had chose Enix's Way of things, Final Fantasy's Franchise, would be smaller than Dragon Quest's Franchise.

the players will mainly buy it for Playstation, because who is Fan of Final Fantasy, is fan of either Dragon Quest, Persona, Star Ocean, Tales of, Mana's series, etc, and those franchises are not on Xbox, so is a System Seller.

Sony had bloodborne, the order, uncharted collection which are big exclusives and a bundle for two of the biggest ips cod, and battlefront which helped in the ps4 selling 18ml. I doubt psvr will push ps4 sales up 12% because the persons would have to buy the console and headset which woild cost a lot.

How does comparing type 0 sales in the US between ps4 and zv1 disprove that its only a big system seller in japan? 

Most ff players are on PlayStation but ff13 sold over 2ml on xb360 so there's still a fanbase on xbox.

I dont understand why your comparing different type of games and in different regions. 

 

So your saying most jrpgs are on PlayStation and that makes FF a system seller? Thats like saying any exclusive is a system seller because its not on an other system which isnt true.

Btw your reply to my post doent really say anything about the ps4.5 which we were talkibg about.

Uncharted Collection, is a Remaster, is more to push more people for Uncharted 4, than  any other thing, The Order, did bad for a Triple A Game, but sold some bundles, BloodBorne, was a Big System seller, and was the 3th, or 4th Best Selling PS4 Tittle on Japan, if i can remember.

The Game sold 2 Millions on Xbox One, without Japan, when Xbox 360, had the Majority of the American Market, this is the Overseas's numbers for Xbox 360, now the Xbox One, is miserable behind the Playstation 4, the game Sold 2.16 Millions for Xbox 360 in Total, and 3.44 Millions for PS3, without the Japan, also the  PS3 Version, sold more Final Fantasy on USA, even with the PS3, much behind in Sales.

 

And you are Wrong, Final Fantasy Type-0, sold Much better overseas than on Japan, as i said before Type Zero gave the Demo for FFXV, for free when purchased, but me, as a Final Fantasy Fun, i know that the True "Gift" of the purchase was the Type-0, and the Main product was Final Fantasy XV, those % Show the interest that each plataform have for FFXV, without Japan in Both the sales of Type-0, according to VG Chartz, Xbox One, sold 230 Thousands, and PS4, 760 Thousands (without Japan), Type-0 was a Japan Exclusive for PSP (i think) and the Original game sold 860 Thousands on Japan, the Remaster sold 760 Thousands overseas because of FFXV'S Demo.

 

I Don't know if you was here on this thread, a While Ago, Final Fantasy XV, was able to hit the Top 100, with the PS4's Version, while the Xbox One's Version, was Far Behind  by Thousands of spots, i just said that the PS4, have the Fan-base of JRPG, RPG, and other genres that don't are on Xbox, because of that Kingdom Hearts, and Final Fantasy, will sell more on PS4, but this isn't all, those games will sell so much more than the Xbox's Version, that this game will be a System Seller in any part of the world.

 

Also Bundle isn't everything, Microsoft, have the Bundle for the Most Awaited game for the beggining of the Year, and yet the Bundle did not Charted in the top 100, in the Last Weeks, and i read on a Article, that this is one of Xbox One's Best selling games, the Game is selling Much on Software, but isn't moving Hardware, and Microsoft, don't have much out-side USA, if they can't chart here, so the Other parts of the World are Even worse.



Swordmasterman said:
jason1637 said:

Sony had bloodborne, the order, uncharted collection which are big exclusives and a bundle for two of the biggest ips cod, and battlefront which helped in the ps4 selling 18ml. I doubt psvr will push ps4 sales up 12% because the persons would have to buy the console and headset which woild cost a lot.

How does comparing type 0 sales in the US between ps4 and zv1 disprove that its only a big system seller in japan? 

Most ff players are on PlayStation but ff13 sold over 2ml on xb360 so there's still a fanbase on xbox.

I dont understand why your comparing different type of games and in different regions. 

 

So your saying most jrpgs are on PlayStation and that makes FF a system seller? Thats like saying any exclusive is a system seller because its not on an other system which isnt true.

Btw your reply to my post doent really say anything about the ps4.5 which we were talkibg about.

Uncharted Collection, is a Remaster, is more to push more people for Uncharted 4, than  any other thing, The Order, did bad for a Triple A Game, but sold some bundles, BloodBorne, was a Big System seller, and was the 3th, or 4th Best Selling PS4 Tittle on Japan, if i can remember.

The Game sold 2 Millions on Xbox One, without Japan, when Xbox 360, had the Majority of the American Market, this is the Overseas's numbers for Xbox 360, now the Xbox One, is miserable behind the Playstation 4, the game Sold 2.16 Millions for Xbox 360 in Total, and 3.44 Millions for PS3, without the Japan, also the  PS3 Version, sold more Final Fantasy on USA, even with the PS3, much behind in Sales.

 

And you are Wrong, Final Fantasy Type-0, sold Much better overseas than on Japan, as i said before Type Zero gave the Demo for FFXV, for free when purchased, but me, as a Final Fantasy Fun, i know that the True "Gift" of the purchase was the Type-0, and the Main product was Final Fantasy XV, those % Show the interest that each plataform have for FFXV, without Japan in Both the sales of Type-0, according to VG Chartz, Xbox One, sold 230 Thousands, and PS4, 760 Thousands (without Japan), Type-0 was a Japan Exclusive for PSP (i think) and the Original game sold 860 Thousands on Japan, the Remaster sold 760 Thousands overseas because of FFXV'S Demo.

 

I Don't know if you was here on this thread, a While Ago, Final Fantasy XV, was able to hit the Top 100, with the PS4's Version, while the Xbox One's Version, was Far Behind  by Thousands of spots, i just said that the PS4, have the Fan-base of JRPG, RPG, and other genres that don't are on Xbox, because of that Kingdom Hearts, and Final Fantasy, will sell more on PS4, but this isn't all, those games will sell so much more than the Xbox's Version, that this game will be a System Seller in any part of the world.

 

Also Bundle isn't everything, Microsoft, have the Bundle for the Most Awaited game for the beggining of the Year, and yet the Bundle did not Charted in the top 100, in the Last Weeks, and i read on a Article, that this is one of Xbox One's Best selling games, the Game is selling Much on Software, but isn't moving Hardware, and Microsoft, don't have much out-side USA, if they can't chart here, so the Other parts of the World are Even worse.

As for ff13 selling less on the x360 is because it was a bad port, 1st ff xbox game, and ff is better known with PlayStation since it was an exclusive ip for years.

Even though uncharted was a remaster it sold lots of systems since it was bundled.

The ff15 did do well on Amazon pre order but we still dont have a release date

Jrpgs will always sell better on PlayStation because they are more associated with the brand

The division bundle is $400 so i can see why its not moving lots of hardware. The ps4 bundles last holiday had huge ips so its not fair to compare them to a new ip.

 

 



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jason1637 said:
Swordmasterman said:

Uncharted Collection, is a Remaster, is more to push more people for Uncharted 4, than  any other thing, The Order, did bad for a Triple A Game, but sold some bundles, BloodBorne, was a Big System seller, and was the 3th, or 4th Best Selling PS4 Tittle on Japan, if i can remember.

The Game sold 2 Millions on Xbox One, without Japan, when Xbox 360, had the Majority of the American Market, this is the Overseas's numbers for Xbox 360, now the Xbox One, is miserable behind the Playstation 4, the game Sold 2.16 Millions for Xbox 360 in Total, and 3.44 Millions for PS3, without the Japan, also the  PS3 Version, sold more Final Fantasy on USA, even with the PS3, much behind in Sales.

 

And you are Wrong, Final Fantasy Type-0, sold Much better overseas than on Japan, as i said before Type Zero gave the Demo for FFXV, for free when purchased, but me, as a Final Fantasy Fun, i know that the True "Gift" of the purchase was the Type-0, and the Main product was Final Fantasy XV, those % Show the interest that each plataform have for FFXV, without Japan in Both the sales of Type-0, according to VG Chartz, Xbox One, sold 230 Thousands, and PS4, 760 Thousands (without Japan), Type-0 was a Japan Exclusive for PSP (i think) and the Original game sold 860 Thousands on Japan, the Remaster sold 760 Thousands overseas because of FFXV'S Demo.

 

I Don't know if you was here on this thread, a While Ago, Final Fantasy XV, was able to hit the Top 100, with the PS4's Version, while the Xbox One's Version, was Far Behind  by Thousands of spots, i just said that the PS4, have the Fan-base of JRPG, RPG, and other genres that don't are on Xbox, because of that Kingdom Hearts, and Final Fantasy, will sell more on PS4, but this isn't all, those games will sell so much more than the Xbox's Version, that this game will be a System Seller in any part of the world.

 

Also Bundle isn't everything, Microsoft, have the Bundle for the Most Awaited game for the beggining of the Year, and yet the Bundle did not Charted in the top 100, in the Last Weeks, and i read on a Article, that this is one of Xbox One's Best selling games, the Game is selling Much on Software, but isn't moving Hardware, and Microsoft, don't have much out-side USA, if they can't chart here, so the Other parts of the World are Even worse.

As for ff13 selling less on the x360 is because it was a bad port, 1st ff xbox game, and ff is better known with PlayStation since it was an exclusive ip for years.

Even though uncharted was a remaster it sold lots of systems since it was bundled.

The ff15 did do well on Amazon pre order but we still dont have a release date

Jrpgs will always sell better on PlayStation because they are more associated with the brand

The division bundle is $400 so i can see why its not moving lots of hardware. The ps4 bundles last holiday had huge ips so its not fair to compare them to a new ip.

 

 

They have a Exclusive Bundle for 300US$, and also the Xbox One, is with YOY Drop on USA, The Hardware isn't selling because the Bundle is too expensive, the Hardware Isn't selling because not even having the Marketing Rights for the Division, moved much hardware, Xbox One, is struggling to maintain their last year sales, while Playstation 4, is Up.

 

Final Fantasy  Isn't just a JRPG, is a Wester-Style-JRPG, Tetsuya Nomura's Unique Design  is something different from the others JRPG,  if you want to see a True Style-RPG, Dragon Quest, is the one, Final Fantasy, is the kind of franchise that is well received on the West, like Resident Evil, Metal Gear, Dark Souls, all Japanese franchises, with Strong following in the West.

This "New IP" is The Most sucessful New IP of the Modern times, this games has beaten Destiny in his Openning week, is a Huge game, Xbox One, last year also had Fallout's Bundle, that also did not helped they to sell much more consoles, is because they had Tons of games to promote in just 2 Months, Tomb Raider, Halo 5, Fallout, and as i Remember The Elder Scrolls, and Fallout, aways sold better on Xbox, than on Playstation,  but even with the Marketing's Rights, the Fallout 4's Xbox Version, sold less than the Playstation 4's version.

 

Have a Bundle of a Big Triple A, push Sales, but  people know that they can get the game on other consoles, what will make people purchase your Console ?, is the Games that are avaliable for it, and Xbox One, don't have games with Mass success coming out, also don't have VR Games, Also (2) the Console receive 2 Price cuts per year, people are already waiting it, Plus, they announced a Upgradable Xbox One, so who want to purchase a Xbox One, now are waiting for the New Xbox One to came out.