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selnor said:
Coglestop said:
My guess is that they are ALL to blame.

MS doesn't want the N64 Goldeneye on the Wii VC
Nintendo doesn't want the Goldeneye remake on Live Arcade
Activision wants an absurd amount of cash to allow it to be published
No Rare arent to blame. It's their bloody game. They should say. Everyones fault except Rare's. No one else should take any credit for a classic such as Goldeneye.

 


If only it was that simple, it's the publishers who have the say, not the developers. Doesn't help that this is one of the most awkward licensing nightmares you could imagine.

Nintendo published it as a second party title, having nearly owned half of Rare.

MS now own the original developer.

Activision hold the overall 007 license (but I don't know how much say they do actually have in this all since Goldeney is after all a Nintendo property)



 

 
 
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MrMarc said:
selnor said:
Coglestop said:
My guess is that they are ALL to blame.

MS doesn't want the N64 Goldeneye on the Wii VC
Nintendo doesn't want the Goldeneye remake on Live Arcade
Activision wants an absurd amount of cash to allow it to be published
No Rare arent to blame. It's their bloody game. They should say. Everyones fault except Rare's. No one else should take any credit for a classic such as Goldeneye.

 


If only it was that simple, it's the publishers who have the say, not the developers. Doesn't help that this is one of the most awkward licensing nightmares you could imagine.

Nintendo published it as a second party title, having nearly owned half of Rare.

MS now own the original developer.

Activision hold the overall 007 license (but I don't know how much say they do actually have in this all since Goldeney is after all a Nintendo property)

Yeah I know. But it's not fair. 

 



Nintendo and Rare do not own the rights to GoldenEye. After the game was released Nintendo did not renew the license with MGM and this is how EA purchased the license to make 007: The World is Not Enough and subsequent games based off of the James Bond license.

Furthermore, any game code, characters, and the title of games made from the use of a licensed property belongs to the licensee which is MGM or its parent company. Then their is also the Right's to use Piers Brosnan's image that must be secured.

Therefore Nintendo nor Rare own the rights to GoldenEye or anything pertaining to the game i.e. game code or characters or maps.


The race for the N64 rights to James Bond 19: The World is Not Enough is on:

http://ign64.ign.com/articles/066/066355p1.html


No More Bond for Rare:

http://ign64.ign.com/articles/061/061742p1.html



If Nintendo is successful at the moment, it’s because they are good, and I cannot blame them for that. What we should do is try to be just as good.----Laurent Benadiba

 

I've never actually thought once about MGM coming into the mix but it does make perfect sense!

+1 to patjuan32! :)



 

 
 
MrMarc said:

It annoys me when people talk about gameplay standards today when quite frankly Goldeneye still pisses on every FPS that gets released. It hasn't aged badly at all and if anything, it shows how bland alot of FPS efforts these days are in comparison.

2 generations have passed and an 11 year old 'dated and badly aged' game still plays far better than anything we've seen yet.


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patjuan32 said:
Nintendo and Rare do not own the rights to GoldenEye. After the game was released Nintendo did not renew the license with MGM and this is how EA purchased the license to make 007: The World is Not Enough and subsequent games based off of the James Bond license.

Furthermore, any game code, characters, and the title of games made from the use of a licensed property belongs to the licensee which is MGM or its parent company. Then their is also the Right's to use Piers Brosnan's image that must be secured.

Therefore Nintendo nor Rare own the rights to GoldenEye or anything pertaining to the game i.e. game code or characters or maps.


The race for the N64 rights to James Bond 19: The World is Not Enough is on:

http://ign64.ign.com/articles/066/066355p1.html


No More Bond for Rare:

http://ign64.ign.com/articles/061/061742p1.html

Not entirely true. License rights are a bit more complicated than that and usually, the code stays with the original creators. The only problem is that if the licenser is being difficult, the code is basically worthless to the holder because they can't use the game for anything.

After all, Perfect Dark did use the same engine as Goldeneye. If the code was locked up and owned by MGM, there would have been a sticky legal situation by re-using the Goldeneye code. 




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patjuan32 said:
Nintendo and Rare do not own the rights to GoldenEye. After the game was released Nintendo did not renew the license with MGM and this is how EA purchased the license to make 007: The World is Not Enough and subsequent games based off of the James Bond license.

Furthermore, any game code, characters, and the title of games made from the use of a licensed property belongs to the licensee which is MGM or its parent company. Then their is also the Right's to use Piers Brosnan's image that must be secured.

Therefore Nintendo nor Rare own the rights to GoldenEye or anything pertaining to the game i.e. game code or characters or maps.


The race for the N64 rights to James Bond 19: The World is Not Enough is on:

http://ign64.ign.com/articles/066/066355p1.html


No More Bond for Rare:

http://ign64.ign.com/articles/061/061742p1.html

I understand your theory, but do you honestly believe all sides have not pored over every single minute detail of this?    If there was something out of place, it would be known.



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I think they should both put out a Golden Eye game at the same time.

MS could redo what they want to enhance it for Live. Nintendo could put it out in its original form on the VC.

Both would be happy, both would have similar but distinctly different games, and both would appeal directly to their main userbase with an awesome game.



Nintendo has a perfectly legitimate reason for not wanting Microsoft to have the game. Now more than ever, they are viewed y a lot of gamers as the 'kiddy' system with no big 'mature' games. Whenever Nintendo fans argue against this, what game do they point to? Goldeneye.

Now, what would happen if that game was available (in superior form, no less) on a competitor's platform?



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