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Are Mega Evos Here To Stay?

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Ljink96 on 25 February 2016
mZuzek said:
Ljink96 said:

Why is this site so deadlocked on converting people. I have reasons/opinions why I don't like certain generations. I was born in a time where there was NO pokemon or it was just being released in Japan. The pokemon now have rigid edges and aren't organic, which is why I state they look mechanical, not in appearance or composition but in the art element of line. Gen 1 did have Muk and Koffing but they were cleverly designed to make you think of what they could be. Now, it's just a pair of keys and a trash bag plain as day. Like I said, I was born in 1996 okay. The first pokemon game I played was sapphire, then diamond, I didn't even know about the first 2 gens. I had to backtrack to play the first 2 games. I have no nostalgia for the first two games. They were painful to play. But I could say that at least the monster designs were much better composed and recognizable. To me, the new designs look like nickelodeon cartoons. I'm not saying gen 6 didn't have decent pokemon, that's like saying 1990 was the only decade that had decent music. I'm just saying that In MY OPINION, they don't look as good as the first 3 or 4 gens.

The story in Pokemon games these days isn't that good anyways. It's not about story, so shoehorning a legendary just to "to create a more meaningful story to the game and they do a good job at that." isn't working that well. That Lasandre guy or however you spell his name was the lamest villain tied to legendaries in the entire series. I loved that the first games didn't give a crap about Legendaries, nor was much known about them. That, if anything adds depth to the story rather than spelling everything out to us like we're in kidnergarten like gen 5 and 6. In the first 2 games specifically, you were on a journey and by some chance you learn of legendaries. Now it's like every game, the legendary takes center stage. Pokemon never relies on a strong story, nor has it ever had one. Nor does it need one. But citing inclusions of legendaries as important plot devices isn't that cool.

I understand where you're coming from... but at this point, it's kinda useless to keep the discussion going.

(and I was born in 1995 and started with Blue, then Silver. lol)

I at least know I definitely am the only one who liked Team Flare and Lysandre's story.

True, let's agree to disagree :D I'm just glad nobody had to cuss me out.



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Frogger on 25 February 2016
mZuzek said:

I don't mind them being inanimate objects when they're ghosts, hence why I really like Chandelure and Aegislash. The trash ones I don't have too much of a problem with either, but they are a bit silly and I think we could do without.

Anyways, I never said previous generations "suffered" from having too many Pokémon, but there was quite a bit of filler throughout the years that no one really needed. As in, gen 1 has a generic fish that evolves into a bigger generic fish - so they looked at that and they decided it was a good idea to create another generic fish that evolves into a bigger generic fish. Ugh. (I'm talking about Goldeen, Seaking, Finneon and Lumineon)

The generations that had most filler were 1, 3 and 5 - not coincidentally, the biggest ones. Arguably, it was fine to have filler in gen 1, since we needed as many Pokémon as possible, but after that it was pointless.

That's part of my point. I don't consider Pokémon like that filler at all. Not every Pokémon has to be a special little unique snowflake to be worth their inclusion in a generation or well-designed. The world isn't filled with just one unique species of fish. Pokémon doesn't need to be either. Lumineon is a great Pokemon. It doesn't have to be this crazy butterfly of a Pokémon to be a good Pokémon.



vkaraujo on 25 February 2016

A lot in a pokemon battles is about predicting your enemy's move. With more choices on the table, it is harder to do that with precision, so i think Megas are a good thing.



Frogger on 25 February 2016
mZuzek said:

I understand your point - I just think that nowadays, when there's over 700 Pokémon, it's completely pointless to continue adding generic filler ones, because there's already so much of it. The generic bugs, generic fish, generic birds, generic everything, they're all there already. That's why I want newer generations to continue introducing few Pokémon, so the roster doesn't get too much larger too fast and the additions that are made are worthy Pokémon with nice concepts and designs behind them.

Hmmm... While your point is fair,  I still think there is merit to having those kinds of Pokémon each generation. Every new generation has its own ecology, and having those specific types of Pokémon being unique to each region lends to that region's personality and individuality.

Take Unfezant. That's probably the kind of Pokemon you'd consider unecessary, and maybe they could have done fine with having Pidgeots line in Unova instead, but Unova, as a region, would lose that little bit of personality. A personality Kalos lacks a lot of precisely because of that lack of new Pokemon. And I think Kalos is much worse off for it. I don't think there's any need at all to slow down the amount of new Pokemon per generation either. I don't see any downside to the overall roster getting too large "too quickly."



PixelPerfect on 25 February 2016

I actually really like them. While some of them definitely need nerfs (Rayquaza, Kangaskhan) they add some variety to gameplay and also help make some Pokemon who were originally pretty worthless more viable in the metagame (Mawile) or just more fun to mess around with.



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Kai_Mao on 25 February 2016
mZuzek said:
Ljink96 said:

Yeah, there's a few. I like the entire Froakie evolution line, Sawk, and a few others. I just feel the designs are getting ceaper by the generation.

That's just your nostalgia. I know it sounds stupid, but it really is. Bad designs have been around since the very beginning of Pokémon, and usually the bigger a generation is, the more stupid designs it has (I guess gen 4 being the only exception to this).

A lot of people complain gen 6 was too small, but I actually love it, because you can tell almost every single one of the new 72 Pokémon were very unique and had a creative idea behind them - it's no longer like in some previous gens where they made some Pokémon just for filler.

I'm going to go all out on this one, through the whole roster of Kalos.

The starters - A knight, a rogue and a mage. Grass/Fighting, Fire/Psychic and Water/Dark. Awesome designs. GG, Game Freak.
Bunnelby line - ok, this one sucks.
Fletchling line - generic bird becomes a badass Fire type that's useful for a crapload of things and also viable competitively.
Scatterbug line - one might say it's the generic bug, but honestly I think Vivillon is pretty cool and the different patterns too.
Litleo line - it's a lion.
Flabébé line - the generic fairy type - it's only really new because fairy type wasn't a thing before. So yeah, meh.
Skiddo line - I might be alone on this, but I think Gogoat is super awesome and it's my favorite grass type ever.
Pancham line - A child panda that evolves when near dark types becomes a full grown, evil panda. Damn.
Furfrou - meh.
Espurr line - some pretty cool and somewhat creepy psychic cats.
Honedge line - stance change has to be one of the most awesome and unique things implemented in the game.
Spritzee line and Swirlix line - mehhhhhhhh.
Inkay line - IT EVOLVES BY HOLDING THE 3DS UPSIDE DOWN. And then the design is flipped and it gets contrary. Come on.
Binacle line - some ugly shit. Water/Rock. Kinda reminds me of Kabutops, but yeah, way worse. It's a bad design.
Skrelp line and Clauncher line - two awesome water types, really.
Helioptile line - just listen to this cry and tell me it's not memorable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXI3n0X78Ag
Tyrunt and Amaura line - two really awesome dinosaur Pokémon. Best fossils since gen 1.
Sylveon - one of my favorite eeveelutions.
Hawlucha - it's Hawlucha.
Dedenne and Carbink - meh.
Goomy line - our lord and savior Goomy.
Klefki - the mandatory blooper of the generation.
Phantump line and Pumpkaboo line - some great forest ghosts. The inspiration for these is actually pretty damn creepy.
Bergmite line - it's an ICEBERG pokémon. Do I need to say anything else?
Noibat line - pure awesome. It's a cave bat that also happens to be a dragon.
Xerneas, Yveltal and Zygarde - easily the best legendary trio in a very long time (since gen 3 I guess). They're all really awesome.
Diancie, Hoopa and Volcanion - three event pokémon, because we couldn't have a perfect generation.

So basically, what's there to dislike is Bunnelby, Diggersby, Binacle, Barbaracle, Klefki, Diancie, Hoopa and Volcanion.
Then there's like, 10 generic, forgettable Pokémon and EVERYTHING ELSE is pure gold. Yes, I love gen 6.

Also, Sawk is gen 5.

What's wrong with event Pokemon? I like Hoopa because it's a genie and its alternate form is pretty cool.



Aielyn on 25 February 2016
mZuzek said:
I just wish they got rid of Mega Charizard X and Mega Mewtwo X. It's stupid to have Pokémon with two megas, because at some point, ideally, every Pokémon would have a mega evolution, and having a few that have two is ridiculous and unfair.

One could argue that ideally, every Pokémon would have two megas, but that would be way overkill.

That's like saying every evolutionary line should have three stages, and every line should have at least two branches, because a few of them do.

Charizard and Mewtwo having two megas each is like Eevee evolving into 8 different pokemon. It's adding a little bit of extra variety to the game. There are a few others that would benefit from having multiple megas, mostly ones that suffer from lack of variety to begin with (so the megas become a way to make them less predictable) and ones that make sense thematically (it would make sense for Girafarig to get two, for instance).



Cloudman on 25 February 2016

They're coming back... or your money back! O:



 

              

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