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Swordmasterman said:
Moonlighter said:
I don't think they are doing terrible with Xbox One compared to the Windows Phones, lol. They keep dropping the ball and could've been doing much better with it. Even though I'm more of a fan of PS, I still want Xbox competing well. Competition keeps these companies on their toes. That's what we need.

I Want Sega, back on the Console Market, I'm following the developers of the DreamCast 2, on Facebook, and Twitter, and i think that Sega, or Nintendo, are better competitor for Sony, than Microsoft, because Microsoft, is more PC-Centric, with those DRM, 100% Online, those kind of things are of the PC Market, that is another Market than the Console Market.

I really miss Dreamcast.

Its design was beautiful, too. I'm glad to hear that Shenmue 3 is happening. Hope that a Shenmue HD collection happens, too.



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JRPGfan said:

Getting outsold 2:1 in the US, last NPD.... Id say your right.

 

The problem is (looking at amazon here).

The best selling PS4 is the CoD BO3 bundle @349$ (around 15th spot)

The best selling XB1 is the GoW UE bundle @300$ (around 30th spot)

 

Basically its already 50$ cheaper, and its still not selling like it is the cheaper of the two.

 

The problem: 

PS4 has more exclusives & multi-plat games run better on it.

Im not sure a 50$ price advantage makes up for that.

This nails it on the head.  Also PS4 has a ton of marketing deals and Playstation Plus is still killing it by comparison.



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JRPGfan said:

Getting outsold 2:1 in the US, last NPD.... Id say your right.

 

The problem is (looking at amazon here).

The best selling PS4 is the CoD BO3 bundle @349$ (around 15th spot)

The best selling XB1 is the GoW UE bundle @300$ (around 30th spot)

 

Basically its already 50$ cheaper, and its still not selling like it is the cheaper of the two.

 

The problem: 

PS4 has more exclusives & multi-plat games run better on it.

Im not sure a 50$ price advantage makes up for that.

Wasn't 2:1, but over 1.5:1, which is pretty bad. But I agree, it needs a price cut.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
JRPGfan said:

Getting outsold 2:1 in the US, last NPD.... Id say your right.

 

The problem is (looking at amazon here).

The best selling PS4 is the CoD BO3 bundle @349$ (around 15th spot)

The best selling XB1 is the GoW UE bundle @300$ (around 30th spot)

 

Basically its already 50$ cheaper, and its still not selling like it is the cheaper of the two.

 

The problem: 

PS4 has more exclusives & multi-plat games run better on it.

Im not sure a 50$ price advantage makes up for that.

This nails it on the head.  Also PS4 has a ton of marketing deals and Playstation Plus is still killing it by comparison.

Sorry, but how exactly is Playstation Plus killing it? Its just as crappy as XBL in terms of downtime...



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

The console race is over, the price is not the problem. Microsoft has to focus in profiting as much as they can, their console is still relevant after all..



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Yeah, I think Microsoft knows that. I don't think it has gone up since the cut.



barneystinson69 said:
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

This nails it on the head.  Also PS4 has a ton of marketing deals and Playstation Plus is still killing it by comparison.

Sorry, but how exactly is Playstation Plus killing it? Its just as crappy as XBL in terms of downtime...

I was referring to free games offered so far on next gen and shareplay and other big features.  Also the discounts plus it's less money



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Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
barneystinson69 said:

Sorry, but how exactly is Playstation Plus killing it? Its just as crappy as XBL in terms of downtime...

I was referring to free games offered so far on next gen and shareplay and other big features.  Also the discounts plus it's less money

Shareplay is a good feature, though the free games aren't any better than what the XB1 is seeing. XBL also has discounts and feature's that can easily compound what sony has.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

their selling alot, dont trust vg sales for 100% in germany and farnce gfk institut told us that the xbox is undertracked on vgchartz by mor than 100k in every european contry



There is very little incentive to choose XBO over the PS4 for the average consumer at this stage even beyond price. I'm really not convinced keeping every XBO SKU $50 below every comparable PS4 SKU will make any difference at all without software support in the form of exclusive games and extra content.

If MS chooses to cut any sort of profits or even take a loss on each initial unit sold, they'll end up selling many of those units to existing PS4 owners looking to pick up a secondary console on the cheap or dedicated XBO owners who want another XBO which is not what MS wants. They know they have to sell to the previous generation hold outs if they want any sort of decent attach rate for software sales.

One could argue that's exactly what MS has been trying to do with XB360 BC, but that doesn't seem to be creating any sort of pay off based upon XBO hardware sales; it's just a nice bonus for existing XBO owners who already replaced their XB360s.

In the end, keeping that $50 price advantage would mainly result in a $50 loss per unit rather than convert into significantly greater sales to new (non 8th gen) consumers which bring higher software attach rates.

MS should probably concentrate on releasing their hardware update which should be smaller, use less power, come in compact, lighter packaging and a significantly lower BoM before doing any more price cutting.