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Forums - Sales - NPD Fallout: Sony Blames April on Lack of Software

DAMN Erik Aston! You're starting to sound as crazy bold as me now. Haha. Not really. Predicting 59K for PS3 May is a little different then picking Wii to sell 900-1000K in each May, June and July in NA, which is what your "Wii will catch 360 in American sales by the end of July 2007" prediction would require.



"[Our former customers] are unable to find software which they WANT to play."
"The way to solve this problem lies in how to communicate what kind of games [they CAN play]."

Satoru Iwata, Nintendo President. Only slightly paraphrased.

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ssj12 said:
... fanboys... i'm starting to hate these forums... I agree with Sony the lack of Software is hurting them. Luckily after their showing at the SCEA Gamers Day they proved that the console will jump up with huge sales once some of those titles start being released.

 Nope, only a momentary bump at most, $600 is too much for most



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

r anyone goin to sign the peteiton to lower the price. i know i did



"The first 5 million consumers will buy the PlayStation 3... even if it didn't have any games." Nice quote, those idiots at Sony deserve to have these losses. Now they're trying to fix it by imitating other business strategies.



i dont think for a second they really believe its "lack of software"  May could very well drop below 60k, and if that happens and no red flags go up i dont think anyone can justify it.  I've been saying all along i wont panic having invested in a PS3 until AFTER xmas if sales dont pick up.....ill stand by that, i wont be alarmed until after xmas, but i just think MS opened the door for them with the elite, and with BD sales staying strong I think they are only a price drop + Sony BD package away from stepping up big time, PS3 + Casino royal or Spidey 1 and 2 for $550 or  $500 for casino Royale......who knows what theyre trying to do anymore, im gonna stop guessing because if they are still comfortable with the sales from april and are going to hold out until fall for software, ill drive myself crazy reading that sh*t, out of frustration.



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The thing is, Sony knew how important games are AND their console was delayed by laser problems. Plus before the release it was taken for granted that PS3 would win this generation.

 

There is the main problem right there. Sony ignored MS's head start and similarily powered console. And they completely ignored Nintendo and their so called Revolution (in all fairness most people did except for the Nintendo fans anyway). But those were 2 big mistakes.

Thinking your GAME system will sell without GAMES is the utmost of arrogance.

Add to that the high price point and that Sony is losing money on each system they are in big trouble.

People say "wait for this game or that game" Well being a Nintendo fan I probably said that more than once for the Gamecube, but it didn't matter. Nintendo released some great games for the Gamecube but it never helped them magically catch up.

Remember Nintendo is still upping supply. Currently the Wii is about 4M ahead. If the Wii stopped selling right now, Sony would still need 20 Months to catch up (at their current rate of about ~200k/month ww). 20 Months... And each week nintendo is selling more than Sony will all month... Even the 3rd parties that are in bed with Sony will have to take notice of that trend.

NO GAME will magically increase the PS3 sales 500% and sustain it. Sure games will give them a bump for a week or two, but that is it. And it will still be behind Wii and likely 360 for that month.

All the games that were gonna help them that have released just fizzled. So what game is next?

Also every day the Wii becomes "cooler" to people and the PS3 becomes less "cool". You think people in Japan will all of a sudden start buying it? I don't think so. They would need month after month after month of AAA exclusives to start to change the trend and that isn't going to happen.

When Nintendo announced they were upping production Sony should have cut the price. They could have coincided that with the pulling of the 20GB model and make the 60GB one $100 less.

So what can they do now?

1) Do nothing and pray:

2) Cut the cost a bit, like $100. MS will match. It won't help Sony. Plus they will lose more money.

3) Cut the cost a lot, like $250. MS will try to match. It will help Sony, but they will lose a lot of money.

Also, now, any price cut will be seen as a sign of weakness.

Sony got arrogant. Tried to use their almost monopoly in the console business to help their other businesses like Blu Ray. They assumed people would buy it at any price and they were wrong. They assumed people would buy it without any games and they were wrong. Now they are paying the price. 



DRJ said:

The thing is, Sony knew how important games are AND their console was delayed by laser problems. Plus before the release it was taken for granted that PS3 would win this generation.

 

There is the main problem right there. Sony ignored MS's head start and similarily powered console. And they completely ignored Nintendo and their so called Revolution (in all fairness most people did except for the Nintendo fans anyway). But those were 2 big mistakes.

Thinking your GAME system will sell without GAMES is the utmost of arrogance.

Add to that the high price point and that Sony is losing money on each system they are in big trouble.

People say "wait for this game or that game" Well being a Nintendo fan I probably said that more than once for the Gamecube, but it didn't matter. Nintendo released some great games for the Gamecube but it never helped them magically catch up.

Remember Nintendo is still upping supply. Currently the Wii is about 4M ahead. If the Wii stopped selling right now, Sony would still need 20 Months to catch up (at their current rate of about ~200k/month ww). 20 Months... And each week nintendo is selling more than Sony will all month... Even the 3rd parties that are in bed with Sony will have to take notice of that trend.

NO GAME will magically increase the PS3 sales 500% and sustain it. Sure games will give them a bump for a week or two, but that is it. And it will still be behind Wii and likely 360 for that month.

All the games that were gonna help them that have released just fizzled. So what game is next?

Also every day the Wii becomes "cooler" to people and the PS3 becomes less "cool". You think people in Japan will all of a sudden start buying it? I don't think so. They would need month after month after month of AAA exclusives to start to change the trend and that isn't going to happen.

When Nintendo announced they were upping production Sony should have cut the price. They could have coincided that with the pulling of the 20GB model and make the 60GB one $100 less.

So what can they do now?

1) Do nothing and pray:

2) Cut the cost a bit, like $100. MS will match. It won't help Sony. Plus they will lose more money.

3) Cut the cost a lot, like $250. MS will try to match. It will help Sony, but they will lose a lot of money.

Also, now, any price cut will be seen as a sign of weakness.

Sony got arrogant. Tried to use their almost monopoly in the console business to help their other businesses like Blu Ray. They assumed people would buy it at any price and they were wrong. They assumed people would buy it without any games and they were wrong. Now they are paying the price.


Haha i must have seen thousands of these doom and gloom posts this year. The fact is the ps3 isn't selling well in japan and america because it is too expensive and doesnt have many quality games. Both those problems are going to be fixed sooner rather than later and when they do get fixed the sales will shoot up. Just this year alone the ps3 has:

Singstar

Metal Gear Solid 4

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue

Ratchet and Clank

Eye Toy

Killzone

Hot Shots Golf 5

Heavenly Sword

Uncharted: drakes fortune

Folklore

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Show me a console that has dipped below 10k/week in Japan or 100k/week in US that was able to recover...



blowfish said:

 


Haha i must have seen thousands of these doom and gloom posts this year. The fact is the ps3 isn't selling well in japan and america because it is too expensive and doesnt have many quality games. Both those problems are going to be fixed sooner rather than later and when they do get fixed the sales will shoot up.


With Sony taking a loss and selling the PS3 at $600, how will the "price problem" be fixed sooner rather than later? Even if they get desperate and reduce the price of the system to $400, it will still be too expensive for most families.

 



Let's see, if Microsoft is aiming for the Moon, and Sony is aiming for the Sun, does that mean that the PS3 will be burned and the 360 will be eclipsed? :) Nintendo seems to be aiming for the heavens ... closest to the ground and easiest to reach? ;) Sorry, I couldn't resist playing on quotes. :D



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