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I saw a news story this morning where Trump actually said he could shoot somebody in the streets and not lose a single vote.

What. The. Fuck.



d21lewis said:
I saw a news story this morning where Trump actually said he could shoot somebody in the streets and not lose a single vote.

What. The. Fuck.

Considering his voters, he's probably right. USA USA USA USA!



Ljink96 said:
Rpruett said:
Ljink96 said:
Once things get down to the nitty gritty, America will hopefully snap out of it and end the ride. It's sad as hell when you're Republican front runner is Donald Trump. Business man, sure. President...uh..no. Most presidents we have seen, can tame their tongue and be wise to speak when appropriate and listen. He does too much speaking and too little listening, that's a recipe for a bona fide idiot. Why is he always in the news? He insults everyone he comes in contact with and he's fake as heck. You thought Obama was terrible...you thought Bush was terrible...just wait for Trump. He'll show us real terror.

You don't build a multi-billion dollar empire without being able to get along and compromise with  a wide group of people.  I really can't put it any simpler than that.   You think Trump will be terrible because you're buying his shtick hook, line and sinker.  You think he's just some blowhard reality TV show star.  He's a smart ivy league educated man who is essentially running an incredibly low budget campaign and completely destroying his competitors in the process.  

He's always in the news because he wants to always be in the news.  It's called playing to win the game.  He's out polticianing the politicians.  

 

Obama had zero credentials for his presidency.  Zero.   Just like Bush,  Bush had zero credentials other than "My Dad was pres!".   Trump will be way better than both of them.  

You thikn you're shoving words down my throat maybe? Do you read anyhting? Obama at least went through the ranks and eventually got noticed. Trump has absolutely NO political knowhow. ou can't mosey on into the presidency and don't know what the hell you're doing. He's all talk.

Ljink96 said:
Rpruett said:
Ljink96 said:
Once things get down to the nitty gritty, America will hopefully snap out of it and end the ride. It's sad as hell when you're Republican front runner is Donald Trump. Business man, sure. President...uh..no. Most presidents we have seen, can tame their tongue and be wise to speak when appropriate and listen. He does too much speaking and too little listening, that's a recipe for a bona fide idiot. Why is he always in the news? He insults everyone he comes in contact with and he's fake as heck. You thought Obama was terrible...you thought Bush was terrible...just wait for Trump. He'll show us real terror.

You don't build a multi-billion dollar empire without being able to get along and compromise with  a wide group of people.  I really can't put it any simpler than that.   You think Trump will be terrible because you're buying his shtick hook, line and sinker.  You think he's just some blowhard reality TV show star.  He's a smart ivy league educated man who is essentially running an incredibly low budget campaign and completely destroying his competitors in the process.  

He's always in the news because he wants to always be in the news.  It's called playing to win the game.  He's out polticianing the politicians.  

 

Obama had zero credentials for his presidency.  Zero.   Just like Bush,  Bush had zero credentials other than "My Dad was pres!".   Trump will be way better than both of them.  

You thikn you're shoving words down my throat maybe? Do you read anyhting? Obama at least went through the ranks and eventually got noticed. Trump has absolutely NO political knowhow. ou can't mosey on into the presidency and don't know what the hell you're doing. He's all talk.

But no. A guy who'd gone from Community Organizer (commendable so I don't know why it's used as an insult) to Senator has zero experience to run for office. Meanwhile a guy who has no political experience at all is more qualified. The same way Obama's mom is an American citizen and he's born in Hawaii but he's disqualified from being president but Ted Cruz knowingly being born in another country is no bother at all. See, I'm sick of politicians ruining politics. What we need is a billionaire who started out on a small loan of $1 million (in the 80s so it could go much farther than today), rich friends in high places, and a dad who'd already established the family name. Yes, so hard for that guy. Lord knows the mixed-race kid born in the 60s to an African dad in a lower-middle class family had everything handed to him. So yea, take the politicians out of politics. They're ruining everything! Also, I'd like to give my plumber a shot at flying planes because pilots crash too often.





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Ljink96 said:
Rpruett said:
Ljink96 said:
Once things get down to the nitty gritty, America will hopefully snap out of it and end the ride. It's sad as hell when you're Republican front runner is Donald Trump. Business man, sure. President...uh..no. Most presidents we have seen, can tame their tongue and be wise to speak when appropriate and listen. He does too much speaking and too little listening, that's a recipe for a bona fide idiot. Why is he always in the news? He insults everyone he comes in contact with and he's fake as heck. You thought Obama was terrible...you thought Bush was terrible...just wait for Trump. He'll show us real terror.

You don't build a multi-billion dollar empire without being able to get along and compromise with  a wide group of people.  I really can't put it any simpler than that.   You think Trump will be terrible because you're buying his shtick hook, line and sinker.  You think he's just some blowhard reality TV show star.  He's a smart ivy league educated man who is essentially running an incredibly low budget campaign and completely destroying his competitors in the process.  

He's always in the news because he wants to always be in the news.  It's called playing to win the game.  He's out polticianing the politicians.  

 

Obama had zero credentials for his presidency.  Zero.   Just like Bush,  Bush had zero credentials other than "My Dad was pres!".   Trump will be way better than both of them.  

You thikn you're shoving words down my throat maybe? Do you read anyhting? Obama at least went through the ranks and eventually got noticed. Trump has absolutely NO political knowhow. ou can't mosey on into the presidency and don't know what the hell you're doing. He's all talk.

Again -- What metrics are necessary to become president that he lacks and the others have?

There's no singular path and there never has been.   Trump has proven himself alone during this campaign that he has plenty of polticial savvy.    Hillary was given her role because of her husband, period.  Jeb got his way because of his family connections (Brother and Dad).    Cruz and Rubio got pushed to the forefront because of their latino card.  

It's a game and most of these candidates are not qualified for anything.  That's why Trump is refeshing, he was successful in his own right, independent of a system increasingly based on nepotism.  





 

bouzane said:
Rpruett said:

Reagan had incredible economic growth during his presidency.  The Bushes not so much.   Really from the Democratic side you have Clinton and prior to that who was the last Democrat who was in charge of a strong economy? 

 

I suppose you're right,  we should yield to people who have not shown any ability to invest or grow their personal wealth in any other capacity  other than taking tax payer money.   Maybe we should be voting for someone who couldn't pass her bar exam initially,  nothing like nepotism to ensure great hires!  

 

If Trumps statement is correct that he received a loan of one million dollars,  (and his high-end estimated worth is 10 billion dollars).... He would have tangibly increased his wealth roughly 10,000%. In regular people standards,  If you were to receive  50,000$ and show growth of 10,000% that's akin to you being worth 500 million dollars.   

 



 

We've been over this before, Reagan's economic growth came at the expense of a massive increase in the nation's debt. Reagan's economic accomplishments were not particularly impressive when taken in context, he was simply far better than the Bushes, Obama and Carter. Reagan's D grade in economics is the best thing the Republican party has accomplished in decades so again, their trash talking would be hilarious if it were not so pathetic.

I don't know where I endorsed any Democrats (a political organization that I thoroughly despise) so you might want to work on your reading comprehension because it seems to be lacking. Your little tirade about taking tax payer money can also be applied to Trump because he needed government bailouts on multiple occasions in the last 25 years. Hell, both parties seem to subscribe to a neo-corporatist / fascist economic model in which tax payer revenue is siphoned off to private organizations and individuals in an effort to undermine competition (a bold affront to capitalism and economic freedom). This reminds me of a quote:

"in a society where one can not fail, one can not succeed".

I don't know how I fooled it up last night but I thought Trump was pretty average as far as investment growth was concerned. Trump's total worth

That's all well and good, but the GDP rates were through the roof during the Reagan years, they averaged nearly 3.5%.  Far superior to what we see today.   Workforce participation is at nearly a 40 year low, which completely skews most employment statistics that would likely be pretty meager today if considered.  

I was not implying you were toting Democrats, simply that what better realistic alternatives currently exist?  Trump was in the private sector, ofcourse he would take whatever he could to improve his bottom line (As has every other business). 

I don't think many are painting Donald Trump as Warren Buffett.  Then again,  Warren Buffett isn't running for President.   So above average in terms of investment growth, significant experience globally in business,  private sector experience (employing 10,000+ people).  I'd consider that experience tangible and light years ahead of "Wife of Bill Clinton",  "Socialist promising the world",  "Son and Brother of Presidents".  And I suspect that this is a primary driver of why many support him.   



d21lewis said:
I saw a news story this morning where Trump actually said he could shoot somebody in the streets and not lose a single vote.

What. The. Fuck.

shows his mindset pretty clearly, he feels his supporters just follow him unconditionally like sheep

and just a few sentences prior to that "joke" he said "my people are so smart", heh

#havefaithingodkingTrump



Rpruett said:

 

That's all well and good, but the GDP rates were through the roof during the Reagan years, they averaged nearly 3.5%.  Far superior to what we see today.   Workforce participation is at nearly a 40 year low, which completely skews most employment statistics that would likely be pretty meager today if considered.  

I was not implying you were toting Democrats, simply that what better realistic alternatives currently exist?  Trump was in the private sector, ofcourse he would take whatever he could to improve his bottom line (As has every other business). 

I don't think many are painting Donald Trump as Warren Buffett.  Then again,  Warren Buffett isn't running for President.   So above average in terms of investment growth, significant experience globally in business,  private sector experience (employing 10,000+ people).  I'd consider that experience tangible and light years ahead of "Wife of Bill Clinton",  "Socialist promising the world",  "Son and Brother of Presidents".  And I suspect that this is a primary driver of why many support him.   

 

Again, we discussed Reagan's economic achievements months ago and the conclusion that I arrived at was that he was quite mediocre, much like Trump.

Why must one support Trump or another Republican / Democrat? If every candidate is unfit for office and both parties are corrupt then don't support any of them. I personally only vote in elections which actually have promising individuals that I actually have faith in.

Trump bought into the neo-corporatist system that is destroying America, he is certainly not the solution to the greatest threat to the peace, prosperity and liberty of the people.

I can certainly understand why somebody would view Trump as the best of a bad situation although I must disagree. He hasn't accomplished anything that I would regard as impressive and once you couple that with his other shortcomings I just see another failure waiting to happen. It doesn't matter though, the country is doomed in the long run no matter who wins this, or any other election.



Rpruett said:
Ljink96 said:
Rpruett said:
Ljink96 said:
Once things get down to the nitty gritty, America will hopefully snap out of it and end the ride. It's sad as hell when you're Republican front runner is Donald Trump. Business man, sure. President...uh..no. Most presidents we have seen, can tame their tongue and be wise to speak when appropriate and listen. He does too much speaking and too little listening, that's a recipe for a bona fide idiot. Why is he always in the news? He insults everyone he comes in contact with and he's fake as heck. You thought Obama was terrible...you thought Bush was terrible...just wait for Trump. He'll show us real terror.

You don't build a multi-billion dollar empire without being able to get along and compromise with  a wide group of people.  I really can't put it any simpler than that.   You think Trump will be terrible because you're buying his shtick hook, line and sinker.  You think he's just some blowhard reality TV show star.  He's a smart ivy league educated man who is essentially running an incredibly low budget campaign and completely destroying his competitors in the process.  

He's always in the news because he wants to always be in the news.  It's called playing to win the game.  He's out polticianing the politicians.  

 

Obama had zero credentials for his presidency.  Zero.   Just like Bush,  Bush had zero credentials other than "My Dad was pres!".   Trump will be way better than both of them.  

You thikn you're shoving words down my throat maybe? Do you read anyhting? Obama at least went through the ranks and eventually got noticed. Trump has absolutely NO political knowhow. ou can't mosey on into the presidency and don't know what the hell you're doing. He's all talk.

Again -- What metrics are necessary to become president that he lacks and the others have?

There's no singular path and there never has been.   Trump has proven himself alone during this campaign that he has plenty of polticial savvy.    Hillary was given her role because of her husband, period.  Jeb got his way because of his family connections (Brother and Dad).    Cruz and Rubio got pushed to the forefront because of their latino card.  

It's a game and most of these candidates are not qualified for anything.  That's why Trump is refeshing, he was successful in his own right, independent of a system increasingly based on nepotism.  



You think Hillary is there because of Bill? She's equally versed in politics just as well if not better than Bill. Hell, Hillary was most likely directing Bill in some form or fashion. I can take it that you probably aren't religious but in my religion, wisdom and power are given to those who respect and listen to women. Bill, even with his human affair, did at least listen to Hillary and good things came out of that presidency...like...I don't know, billion dollar surplus and other countries actually LIKED us. Trump is a bully, and he talks right out of his ass.

And what did Barack have to "obligate" him to join the presidency? NONE WHATSOEVER. Did you by chance watch the event in which Obama went on a survival trip with some guy named Bear Gryll? He stated that he had no belief in his early years that he'd be the POTUS one day, neither did his parents or friends. Obama worked his way into that White House and there's nothing you can say to de-rail that.

You think things are given to African Americans? Get a grip, we steal from every race but our own. Wake up man, Native Americans, African Americans, we even tried the freakin' Middle East. The few of us that do give to them, bless us. But Obama, had no silver platters. Trump, his dad had stocks and bonds for him. In fact, if Trump had let that money sit and go get a job at McDonalds, he'd be richer than he is today! Success is a horrible teacher. It tricks weak minded people into thinking that they are invincible. Just like Trump. You can't sell your prsidency on the fact that you're a friggin' billionaire. Do you know how many people could claim that? Give them an attitude of a 16 year old and you have Trump.

The dude has no rhetoric, he wings all of his speeches, he never presents research, he's just not a good Presedential candidate. Just because you have money, doesn't mean you can be a president. Does Mitt Romeny ring any bells? Heck, if the race is based off of how you run a business, then get Bill Gates over here then. Bring me freakin' Warren Buffet. At least they're not radical numnuts.

Trump wants to send us into war. All the republicans want to send us to war. Waste billions of dollars a month, like Bush did, to fight wars that we have no business in just to replicate World War II and hope to gain reparations and other financials to help us out of this trillon dollar debt situation. Mind you, we wouldn't be in this situation if Al Gore hadn't been cheated out of his presidency. War costs money, money that we really don't have. And for what? Just to start another World War? These terrorists...they aren't worth it. I understand people are getting killed because of Isis but many more will perish if a foolish war breaks out.

America is going down a path of destruction, our dollar is losing its value every day. Yes, a war could indeed strengthen our dollar but at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives if not millions. To be honest, I don't think anyone can come along and truly repair our nations issues. We're gonna either go into default, God fobid, or somehow, we start making profit again. And America's richest have themselves to blame, as well as Bill Clinton. True, Bill did end office with a huge surplus 16 years ago, but in order to make that happen taxes were raised on the wealthy class, the big rich businesses and business owners. Being greedy Americans, we went somewhere else (i.e. Asia) to avoid tax hikes and make a quick buck.  This, along with Bush's meaningless war, eventually began to decay America. God knows what it'll take to get us out of this mess. It's not Trump, or Hillary, or Jeb, or any of them. As a country, we're gonna heve to pull ourselves up.  That's how I feel man. You can rebuttle until your butt falls off, with all due respect but I'm done here.